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Re: Fed-up with slow fix of potholes?

Posted: 20 Nov 2023, 5:32pm
by rareposter
fastpedaller wrote: 19 Nov 2023, 4:52pm But in the end they will need fixing properly. You wouldn't get in a roofer to patch up the roof of your house several times instead of replacing the broken tile!
Imagine for a moment that you're living on the breadline, you have virtually zero spare cash and what you do have goes on servicing debts, the basic cost of living and a choice between eating and heating. A position that tragically many people find themselves in.

The roof is leaking and it'll cost £500 to fix it - you don't have that and can't get it but the roofer says he'll bang a bit of tarp over it for £50 cash in hand. You can (just about) afford that and you don't have much choice.
Two months later - same thing, the tarp is ripped or has blown off so the same situation arises. You still have no chance of getting £500 so the same £50 repair is your only choice. So yes - you absolutely would get the roofer in multiple times because you cannot afford anything else.

There's something called the Boots Theory that describes it well:

Good boots cost $50 and can be expected to last 10 years.
Cheap boots cost $20 and can be expected to last 2 years
A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

That position is most UK councils now. Cheap short-term repairs is all they can afford.

Re: Fed-up with slow fix of potholes?

Posted: 20 Nov 2023, 5:55pm
by Psamathe
rareposter wrote: 20 Nov 2023, 5:32pm
fastpedaller wrote: 19 Nov 2023, 4:52pm But in the end they will need fixing properly. You wouldn't get in a roofer to patch up the roof of your house several times instead of replacing the broken tile!
Imagine for a moment that you're living on the breadline, you have virtually zero spare cash and what you do have goes on servicing debts, the basic cost of living and a choice between eating and heating. A position that tragically many people find themselves in.

The roof is leaking and it'll cost £500 to fix it - you don't have that and can't get it but the roofer says he'll bang a bit of tarp over it for £50 cash in hand. You can (just about) afford that and you don't have much choice.
Two months later - same thing, the tarp is ripped or has blown off so the same situation arises. You still have no chance of getting £500 so the same £50 repair is your only choice. So yes - you absolutely would get the roofer in multiple times because you cannot afford anything else.

There's something called the Boots Theory that describes it well:

Good boots cost $50 and can be expected to last 10 years.
Cheap boots cost $20 and can be expected to last 2 years
A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

That position is most UK councils now. Cheap short-term repairs is all they can afford.
Yet the Westminster Government is on the verge of implementing eg Inheritance Tax cuts. It get political but as far as potholes go, one can comment on the number/causes/impacts (which for cyclists is a bit of a foregone conclusion) but once one gets onto the reasons a significant aspect is money and a significant factor becomes central government.

(And that sentence is short compared to some I write! - sorry)

Ian