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Psamathe wrote: ↑1 Jul 2021, 3:02pm I'm no dietician but I expect if you examine the idea in detail it will have many shortcomings (just as 5 a day could be achieved by eating 5 portions of cabbage every day which would probably not achieve the aims). Some foods might be different species but are likely very similar from a dietary perspective e.g. some grains.
Ian

mumbojumbo wrote: ↑6 Jul 2021, 7:07pm Primitive man was nomadic and ate what he found which was varied and in small amounts, which meant diversity was built in. Farming when introduced favoured a specific product and a homogenous diet ,and a vulnerable system of production. This flaw has been compounded by a prevailing indolence and hence widespread obesity to varying levels. On top of this the USA convert surplus maize into corn syrup which they add to many convenience foods .I think early man was actually sophisticated and contemporary man is the primitive one.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/soil-depletion-and-nutrition-loss/ wrote:Because of soil depletion, crops grown decades ago were much richer in vitamins and minerals than the varieties most of us get today
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It would be overkill to say that the carrot you eat today has very little nutrition in it—especially compared to some of the other less healthy foods you likely also eat—but it is true that fruits and vegetables grown decades ago were much richer in vitamins and minerals than the varieties most of us get today. The main culprit in this disturbing nutritional trend is soil depletion: Modern intensive agricultural methods have stripped increasing amounts of nutrients from the soil in which the food we eat grows. Sadly, each successive generation of fast-growing, pest-resistant carrot is truly less good for you than the one before.
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Psamathe wrote: ↑1 Jul 2021, 2:54pm

simonineaston wrote: ↑1 Jul 2021, 8:24am Is cheese a vegtable? I've never seen one in a zoo, so I'm assuming it is.

Which reminds me with the frequent comment you get when asking about vegetarian in many restaurants in Peru "Si vegetariano con pollo" (yes, it's vegetarian with chicken" - they seem to consider chicken to be vegetarian!)

Ian

[XAP]Bob wrote: ↑22 Jul 2021, 10:52pm

Psamathe wrote: ↑1 Jul 2021, 2:54pm

simonineaston wrote: ↑1 Jul 2021, 8:24am Is cheese a vegtable? I've never seen one in a zoo, so I'm assuming it is.

Which reminds me with the frequent comment you get when asking about vegetarian in many restaurants in Peru "Si vegetariano con pollo" (yes, it's vegetarian with chicken" - they seem to consider chicken to be vegetarian!)

Ian

It's just processed seed, in the same way that steak is just processed grass :wink:

Oldjohnw wrote: ↑23 Jul 2021, 8:05am A couple of weeks ago, with some mates getting coffee and a bacon sandwich at a local cafe, I noticed they had ‘Vegetarian BLTs’.

Still thinking about that.

NUKe wrote: ↑23 Jul 2021, 11:24am 30 odd without much thought from this week , but some are not healthy just a quick thought about what I have eaten.

PH wrote: ↑23 Jul 2021, 12:14pm

NUKe wrote: ↑23 Jul 2021, 11:24am 30 odd without much thought from this week , but some are not healthy just a quick thought about what I have eaten.

No legumes

* Except peanuts

PH wrote: ↑23 Jul 2021, 12:14pmAnd I think semolina is wheat.

pjclinch wrote: ↑23 Jul 2021, 11:57am

Oldjohnw wrote: ↑23 Jul 2021, 8:05am A couple of weeks ago, with some mates getting coffee and a bacon sandwich at a local cafe, I noticed they had ‘Vegetarian BLTs’.

Still thinking about that.

Google "vegan bacon".
There's a growing trade in meat-free "I can't believe it's not <insert meat product category here>" stuff, and those would probably be using something similar.