Recommend a 32H 26” rim

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mylofitz
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Recommend a 32H 26” rim

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My rear wheel has buckled with the loss of 3 spokes so time for a rebuild. It has an alfine hub. Also I’m no lightweight. Unfortunately the availability of 26” rims isn’t what it used to be. Looking for recommendations for a heavy duty 32h rim that can still be purchased?

Thank you
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gregoryoftours
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I'd second Ryde Andra 30 or Sputnik.
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They stopped making Sputniks a few years ago. The 'replacement ' is the Andra. Very similar build, but holes not eyeleted. You may find some Sputniks as old stock.

I put The Andra on my touring Surly when the Sputniks wore out. No problems.
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It's a bit annoying that Sputniks are harder to get hold of in 26" size; they're as bombproof as Andras but I think because they're eyeleted can get away with being lighter. I also prefer a rim to be eyeleted.
geocycle
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Ryde grizzly are a tad lighter than andra if you can get them. I prefer the carbide versions.
colin54
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They still have Sputniks in 32 hole/silver at Spa at the moment, 'limited stock available' ; £25
https://www.spacycles.co.uk/m20b0s116p6 ... ik-26-inch
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mylofitz
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Thanks so much for the recommendations. It’s much appreciated.
Bice
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I got two 26 inch Sputniks from Spa before Christmas, but went for 36H and I am 72kgs.

I think making up wheels with 36H is much easier: smaller increments on each spoke. Much stronger wheel. So if you are a bit heavier, why bother with 32H? No advantage to them at all.

Interestingly, this couple who rode London to Istanbul with quite a bit of stuff. The woman had a 32H wheel and broke spokes several times in Germany and eventually replaced with 36H wheel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYGxP1rhr-E

I have a 32H rear 700mm wheel on my commuter and it is the most prone to come out of true. All my other bikes - including two road bikes are fitted with 36H wheels and I am not changing them.
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Lazzaretti steel 1996 10sp 48/34
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Bice
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This thread chronicles my experience building these wheels in detail with great advice from Brucey et al: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=142401

CAUTION: Spa sells these 26 inch rims with a supposed ERD of 537mm, which is wrong. Measure it yourself, obviously. But I made it 542mm, which was correct. I am glad to have ignored nonsense from people saying I was wrong. I ordered spokes 261mm and 260mm (drive side) and these were correct.

I have given the wheels a hard work out: 37 miles off-road on Saturday. They are perfectly true.
Daily: Carlton Courette 1982 mixte 42, 32, 22 x7
Van Nicholas Yukon titanium 50/34 10sp
Lazzaretti steel 1996 10sp 48/34
Trek 1.7 10sp 3x 2010;
Ciocc steel 1984 50/34x7
Marin Bolinas Ridge MTB c1995, 7x42, 34, 24
Scott Scale carbon MTB 27.5 inch
nsew
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Bice wrote: 5 Jul 2021, 10:17pm I got two 26 inch Sputniks from Spa before Christmas, but went for 36H and I am 72kgs.

I think making up wheels with 36H is much easier: smaller increments on each spoke. Much stronger wheel. So if you are a bit heavier, why bother with 32H? No advantage to them at all.

Interestingly, this couple who rode London to Istanbul with quite a bit of stuff. The woman had a 32H wheel and broke spokes several times in Germany and eventually replaced with 36H wheel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYGxP1rhr-E

I have a 32H rear 700mm wheel on my commuter and it is the most prone to come out of true. All my other bikes - including two road bikes are fitted with 36H wheels and I am not changing them.
OPs bike has a 32h internal gear hub. A 26” Sputnik or Andra in 32h still makes for a very strong wheel.
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nsew wrote: 6 Jul 2021, 8:17am
Bice wrote: 5 Jul 2021, 10:17pm I got two 26 inch Sputniks from Spa before Christmas, but went for 36H and I am 72kgs.

I think making up wheels with 36H is much easier: smaller increments on each spoke. Much stronger wheel. So if you are a bit heavier, why bother with 32H? No advantage to them at all.

Interestingly, this couple who rode London to Istanbul with quite a bit of stuff. The woman had a 32H wheel and broke spokes several times in Germany and eventually replaced with 36H wheel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYGxP1rhr-E

I have a 32H rear 700mm wheel on my commuter and it is the most prone to come out of true. All my other bikes - including two road bikes are fitted with 36H wheels and I am not changing them.
OPs bike has a 32h internal gear hub. A 26” Sputnik or Andra in 32h still makes for a very strong wheel.
Indeed - more than strong enough for Thorn to use on their Rohloff-equipped Exped bikes, both solo & tandem.
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Indeed - more than strong enough for Thorn to use on their Rohloff-equipped Exped bikes, both solo & tandem.
Yes, I have heard this and not understood the reasoning (if any). Are they equipped with particularly heavy rim / spoke combinations?

Anyway the woman in the YouTube video had multiple problems with her 32H rear on a Dawes Karakum until someone sensible replaced it with a 36H. (They were taking a lot on the back, to be fair.) https://monteandkomodo.wordpress.com/gear/

I will probably make up a 32H Sputnik on my 700mm commuter to re-use the Tiagra hub at some point: it gets abused and overladen with shopping, but it is not a distance tourer. You might as well go heaviest and strongest you can get.
Daily: Carlton Courette 1982 mixte 42, 32, 22 x7
Van Nicholas Yukon titanium 50/34 10sp
Lazzaretti steel 1996 10sp 48/34
Trek 1.7 10sp 3x 2010;
Ciocc steel 1984 50/34x7
Marin Bolinas Ridge MTB c1995, 7x42, 34, 24
Scott Scale carbon MTB 27.5 inch
nsew
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Re: Recommend a 32H 26” rim

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Bice wrote: 6 Jul 2021, 9:16am
Indeed - more than strong enough for Thorn to use on their Rohloff-equipped Exped bikes, both solo & tandem.
Yes, I have heard this and not understood the reasoning (if any). Are they equipped with particularly heavy rim / spoke combinations?

Anyway the woman in the YouTube video had multiple problems with her 32H rear on a Dawes Karakum until someone sensible replaced it with a 36H. (They were taking a lot on the back, to be fair.) https://monteandkomodo.wordpress.com/gear/

I will probably make up a 32H Sputnik on my 700mm commuter to re-use the Tiagra hub at some point: it gets abused and overladen with shopping, but it is not a distance tourer. You might as well go heaviest and strongest you can get.
Rohloff (and Alfine) are dishless hubs. The Karakum’s are dished (9sp) 700c factory junk. I wouldn’t be taking my cues from a couple of holiday makers on holiday bikes.
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Bonefishblues
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Re: Recommend a 32H 26” rim

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Bice wrote: 6 Jul 2021, 9:16am
Indeed - more than strong enough for Thorn to use on their Rohloff-equipped Exped bikes, both solo & tandem.
Yes, I have heard this and not understood the reasoning (if any). Are they equipped with particularly heavy rim / spoke combinations?

Anyway the woman in the YouTube video had multiple problems with her 32H rear on a Dawes Karakum until someone sensible replaced it with a 36H. (They were taking a lot on the back, to be fair.) https://monteandkomodo.wordpress.com/gear/

I will probably make up a 32H Sputnik on my 700mm commuter to re-use the Tiagra hub at some point: it gets abused and overladen with shopping, but it is not a distance tourer. You might as well go heaviest and strongest you can get.
Dish, or the lack of, makes the difference, I think. Strong rim (Andra/similar), plus a good build with strong spokes = a strong wheel (and the cushioning effect of 2+ inch tyres will help, I guess)
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