Cycling UK Forum

Jdsk wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 2:14pm I don't know one.

But the cycling pages on Wikipedia show the sort of thing, eg:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_wheel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recumbent_bicycle

Jonathan

PS: I'd encourage everyone to edit a few Wikipedia pages on topics in which they're interested in order to get the feel of how it all works.

Reading that recumbent page would provide a ton of information about them, in far less time than reading the same kB of pages on this forum. And although I'm sure a purist could pick holes, it will be 95% correct. (which is better than 99% of internet forum pages!!! )

Yes x3.

And you can correct the rest!

Jonathan

There is a brilliant "DIY" wiki-style-ish thread on YACF about relative tyre fitting difficulty. The first poster edits the list in his post whenever people add posts at the bottom with more data.

It's much cruder than a proper wiki, but shows how useful a forum thread can be if a little organisation is applied.

In case anyone else has the same question (and to save further ‘timewasting’), the second paragraph below is from CycleChat...

ontodva wrote: ↑12 Jul 2021, 11:41am I maybe need some advice... I have just begun to organise short rides with people I have never met, about 30k, with road, easy off-road and towpath and riverside routes and I have no idea about my liability if a rider or a third party is injured or suffers loss, and no experience coping with accidents.
Can anyone offer some advice and is there a source of advice on this?

...

Thanks to the replies to my post I have joined Cycling UK (£48) and taken out Activity Provider insurance (£79). Worth it as it is the difference for me between organising rides and not.
I also bought first aid basics to carry. I have decided not to include a waiver/disclaimer in the event posting text (so sue me).

Jdsk wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 2:25pm In case anyone's confused... Wikipedia is the wonderful massive free encyclopaedia, wikis are anything that works in roughly the same way.

Jonathan

PS: How many other words of Hawaiian origin are used in common English?

Jon I've noticed that you have an unshakable trust in Wikipedia.

I don't because I've lived just long enough that I've been at some historical events especially where I live, and can tell you the people that the write on Wikipedia can either make up stuff that suits their point of view or can't be bothered to put the work in to find the other side of the story just like any other form of reporting.

Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story time or history is written by the winners but can be very far from the truth.

I've wasn't surprised to see a very recent event reported wrong because it suited the organizers of the event. I wouldn't try to correct the facts in that case because the truth of the situation would jeopardise a great event and maybe unnecessary cause distress for the family of the person who died. I say maybe because I'd guess that the family already know what the truth is and correcting wiki wouldn't achieve anything positive.

I've always found I get better more reliable information from experts in their field like Brucey or people that were actually at the event in question. Wiki seems to be almost always wrong or too general to be of specific enough use.

I don't have an unshakable trust in anything. I find Wikipedia to be a very useful resource. And it's free and available to everyone, and doesn't invade privacy or sell your information, which is why I often cite it.

If you find errors I suggest that you correct them.

Jonathan

Cowsham wrote: ↑17 Jul 2021, 1:49pmI've wasn't surprised to see a very recent event reported wrong because it suited the organizers of the event. I wouldn't try to correct the facts in that case because the truth of the situation would jeopardise a great event and maybe unnecessary cause distress for the family of the person who died. I say maybe because I'd guess that the family already know what the truth is and correcting wiki wouldn't achieve anything positive.

What was the event, and which Wikipedia article, please?

Thanks

Jonathan

Isn't it obvious I wouldn't want to write anything about it on a public forum? I have to respect the families of the people involved, everyone else who was there does.

mattheus wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 3:06pm There is a brilliant "DIY" wiki-style-ish thread on YACF about relative tyre fitting difficulty. The first poster edits the list in his post whenever people add posts at the bottom with more data.

It's much cruder than a proper wiki, but shows how useful a forum thread can be if a little organisation is applied.

Good reminder. I've seen that done successfully. and doesn't someone do some similar accumulation and updating similar here... ? But I can't remember the topic...

Jonathan

Cowsham wrote: ↑17 Jul 2021, 2:18pm Read this post back to yourself Slow Slowster because it does sound like you were unhappy about the fact that you'd given of your valuable time to impart your unerring knowledge to the OP on the other forum but the OP still wanted more. How dare He/she.

I did not post anything on the thread on Cycle Chat.

slowster wrote: ↑17 Jul 2021, 5:32pm

Cowsham wrote: ↑17 Jul 2021, 2:18pm Read this post back to yourself Slow Slowster because it does sound like you were unhappy about the fact that you'd given of your valuable time to impart your unerring knowledge to the OP on the other forum but the OP still wanted more. How dare He/she.

I did not post anything on the thread on Cycle Chat.

What are ye complainin aboot then?

Sorry I'm a bit grumpy -- doc says I have to immobilize my arm to let collarbone heal so can't even ride.

slowster wrote: ↑17 Jul 2021, 5:32pm

Cowsham wrote: ↑17 Jul 2021, 2:18pm Read this post back to yourself Slow Slowster because it does sound like you were unhappy about the fact that you'd given of your valuable time to impart your unerring knowledge to the OP on the other forum but the OP still wanted more. How dare He/she.

I did not post anything on the thread on Cycle Chat.

So what's your beef with the OP then? That you had to read a duplicate post, in a completely different forum?

Cowsham wrote: ↑17 Jul 2021, 2:16pm Isn't it obvious I wouldn't want to write anything about it on a public forum? I have to respect the families of the people involved, everyone else who was there does.

No - not at all obvious that you wouldn't want to talk about some unspecified event at some unspecified time at some unspecified place.

Mentioning the article you have issues with allows people to correct it. Wikipedia is an excellent resource, and one thing it does well is cite sources - so you don't need to trust wikipedia, you can look at the primary sources available.

[XAP]Bob wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 5:18pm

Cowsham wrote: ↑17 Jul 2021, 2:16pm Isn't it obvious I wouldn't want to write anything about it on a public forum? I have to respect the families of the people involved, everyone else who was there does.

No - not at all obvious that you wouldn't want to talk about some unspecified event at some unspecified time at some unspecified place.

Mentioning the article you have issues with allows people to correct it. Wikipedia is an excellent resource, and one thing it does well is cite sources - so you don't need to trust wikipedia, you can look at the primary sources available.

Just my experience of it if yours is different and you want to believe it that's
Ok as long as it doesn't lead to prejudice.