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Re: New tent?

Posted: 14 Jul 2021, 6:43am
by Sweep
ossie wrote: 13 Jul 2021, 10:12am . I previously tried 8.5mm but its indeed the 9.02mm required.
9.02mm!! what sort of measurement/emerging standard is that?
I always try to stick to commonly available pole diamaters - generic replacements very easy to find/cut to length.

Re: New tent?

Posted: 14 Jul 2021, 11:47am
by nsew
Vaude / Yunan ~55cm long, I can see why some have to strap their tents lengthways on a rack. Hilleberg / DAC are ~42cm. The Wild Country Compact / Superflex are ~35cm. The industry standard is DAC in South Korea.

https://www.dacpole.com/tent-poles

Re: New tent?

Posted: 14 Jul 2021, 2:08pm
by leftpoole
nsew wrote: 14 Jul 2021, 11:47am Vaude / Yunan ~55cm long, I can see why some have to strap their tents lengthways on a rack. Hilleberg / DAC are ~42cm. The Wild Country Compact / Superflex are ~35cm. The industry standard is DAC in South Korea.

https://www.dacpole.com/tent-poles
Yunan are equally as good as DAC in my opinion.

Re: New tent?

Posted: 14 Jul 2021, 2:41pm
by willem jongman
Not in my experience. Helsport used them for a while, and those poles had a nasty habit of breaking. They may be better now, but it was a nightmare for Helsport at the time - which they handled elegantly.

Re: New tent?

Posted: 14 Jul 2021, 3:26pm
by leftpoole
willem jongman wrote: 14 Jul 2021, 2:41pm Not in my experience. Helsport used them for a while, and those poles had a nasty habit of breaking. They may be better now, but it was a nightmare for Helsport at the time - which they handled elegantly.
I believe you are well out of date.

Re: New tent?

Posted: 14 Jul 2021, 3:33pm
by willem jongman
Could be, but quite a few of my friends were less than pleased, and when mine started to break as well two years later, I was not happy either. I notice that Helsport now have enough faith in them to use them in their cheaper models, but not in their top of the line ones.

Re: New tent?

Posted: 14 Jul 2021, 5:24pm
by nsew
Judging by manufacturers of the worlds strongest backpacking / expedition tents it’s a toss-up between Easton XX75 and DAC Featherlite NSL. Yunan appear to be used in lower / mid-range tents.

Re: New tent?

Posted: 14 Jul 2021, 7:32pm
by ossie
nsew wrote: 14 Jul 2021, 11:47am Vaude / Yunan ~55cm long, I can see why some have to strap their tents lengthways on a rack. Hilleberg / DAC are ~42cm. The Wild Country Compact / Superflex are ~35cm. The industry standard is DAC in South Korea.

https://www.dacpole.com/tent-poles
The OP's tent poles are 42cm..juct checked and I had to cut down to size I recall when I purchased those in the link. That said I do pack my Vaude Taurus UL lengthways, any tent I've strapped that way for some reason, it gives easier access to panniers I find.

Re: New tent?

Posted: 15 Jul 2021, 2:48pm
by Slowroad
got a replacement pole for my Taurus - nothing wrong with the rest of the tent and a pole is cheaper than a replacement! (look i'm from Yorkshire)
Thanks - was that the pole segment, or did you manage to find a whole set?

Re: New tent?

Posted: 15 Jul 2021, 2:55pm
by Slowroad
The OP's tent poles are 42cm..juct checked and I had to cut down to size I recall when I purchased those in the link. That said I do pack my Vaude Taurus UL lengthways, any tent I've strapped that way for some reason, it gives easier access to panniers I find
I've always done that too - the sleeping mat then goes at right angles on top of that.

Re: New tent?

Posted: 15 Jul 2021, 3:21pm
by Slowroad
I like the look of this: https://www.terra-nova.co.uk/all-tents/ ... hn-2-tent/
A bit heavier than my Taurus but the two porches wuld be useful.
Anyone actually used one?

Re: New tent?

Posted: 15 Jul 2021, 3:27pm
by willem jongman
We have a similar tent from Decathlon (same shape, same size, same weight), and it is indeed a convenient shape for solo use. I bought it as a festival etc tent for the children, but have occasionaly borrowed it for myself, until I bought some really lightweight ones (a Helsport Ringstind for bad weather and an MSR Zoic 1 for warm weather). My daughter has used it for two, but that is tight and will only work if the weather is good but not too hot.

Re: New tent?

Posted: 15 Jul 2021, 7:55pm
by nsew
Slowroad wrote: 15 Jul 2021, 3:21pm I like the look of this: https://www.terra-nova.co.uk/all-tents/ ... hn-2-tent/
A bit heavier than my Taurus but the two porches wuld be useful.
Anyone actually used one?
That tents pole structure is absurdly weak. When the wind flattens that tent, poles will snap and tear the tent up. The tent pitches inner first which is a pain in poor weather. The fly attaches with fiddly Velcro loops. I can’t believe how bad that tent is.

https://youtu.be/EsIj55-GpTc

Re: New tent?

Posted: 15 Jul 2021, 8:49pm
by nsew
ossie wrote: 14 Jul 2021, 7:32pm
nsew wrote: 14 Jul 2021, 11:47am Vaude / Yunan ~55cm long, I can see why some have to strap their tents lengthways on a rack. Hilleberg / DAC are ~42cm. The Wild Country Compact / Superflex are ~35cm. The industry standard is DAC in South Korea.

https://www.dacpole.com/tent-poles
The OP's tent poles are 42cm..juct checked and I had to cut down to size I recall when I purchased those in the link. That said I do pack my Vaude Taurus UL lengthways, any tent I've strapped that way for some reason, it gives easier access to panniers I find.
I can see how that’s necessary when panniers are attached at the platform level. There are a few racks that position the pannier hooks beneath the platform. Were you able to plug the cut pole section by using it at an end? If not the sharp edge will be shearing the shock cord when the pole is packed.

Re: New tent?

Posted: 15 Jul 2021, 9:30pm
by ossie
nsew wrote: 15 Jul 2021, 8:49pm Were you able to plug the cut pole section by using it at an end? If not the sharp edge will be shearing the shock cord when the pole is packed.
Cheers, yes, the cut ends are inserted down on some alloy S clips connecting to the outer / inner but excellent point to highlight those chopping Alu poles. I doubt many carry shock cord. That said I do a fair bit of plumbing so its second nature to file off the mess.