Using a stove to make a brew on longer day rides

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Re: Using a stove to make a brew on longer day rides

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rmurphy195 wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 7:33pm My "old guys rule" flask does very nicely thanks, with the hot drink pre-made in it. No fuss, no bother, no need to find a flat fireproof surface e.g. lump of rock, no risk of starting a fire especially given the times we live in. Not forgetting a sarnie/banana/flapjack of course! Takes up less room than a stove/gas bottle etc.
Flasks are more convenient, stoves are more fun!
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Flask as above.
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Oldjohnw wrote: 8 Aug 2021, 7:46am A bus shelter I used a couple of years ago on the Yorkshire Wold Cycleway.9B3B2B4A-22D0-4E48-A42B-AC4FBE5A7742.jpeg
Haha. I give you my bus shelter :wink: NW of Vitre in Northern France after a night in the woods. Yours wins hands down however.

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ossie wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 10:30pm
Oldjohnw wrote: 8 Aug 2021, 7:46am A bus shelter I used a couple of years ago on the Yorkshire Wold Cycleway.9B3B2B4A-22D0-4E48-A42B-AC4FBE5A7742.jpeg
Haha. I give you my bus shelter :wink: NW of Vitre in Northern France after a night in the woods. Yours wins hands down however.

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There is a patent for a catalytic camping stove, which would ensure compliance with the regs, but I don’t know if there are any in production yet…..
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4588373A/en
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Airsporter1st wrote: 13 Aug 2021, 12:05pm There is a patent for a catalytic camping stove, which would ensure compliance with the regs, but I don’t know if there are any in production yet…..
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4588373A/en
https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/reviews/ ... sr-reactor
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PH wrote: 7 Aug 2021, 12:26pm One man's faff is another's ritual, you get to choose your own level. I'm surprised we've not had the likes of the Kelly Kettle yet, where gathering enough dry twigs is all part of the fun.
Time wise there's not much in it, I haven't timed it out on the road, in the kitchen it takes about two minutes to have a hot drink in my hand, maybe double that on a bench somewhere. You'll be lucky to match that in a café, plus I'm not a fan of using a café on my own, they have an unpredictability which being self sufficient doesn't, if I want to stop for twenty minutes I don't want the café to turn that into forty. Plus you can have what you want, for me that's usually plain Redbush, so no milk or sweetener to carry. Weight wise, my kit comes in at around 550g including plenty of tea bags, that doesn't include the water, I'll use what I'd be carrying anyway and replenish if necessary. I know it's possible to halve that weight, but for me the convenience of an all-in-one outweighs the extra.
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andrew_s wrote: 15 Aug 2021, 6:57pm
Airsporter1st wrote: 13 Aug 2021, 12:05pm There is a patent for a catalytic camping stove, which would ensure compliance with the regs, but I don’t know if there are any in production yet…..
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4588373A/en
https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/reviews/ ... sr-reactor
From the review, absolutely no use for the "no flames" laws in some UK national parks.
The stove requires a naked flame lighter or sparking device to get it going, and there is clearly a flame involved....


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pedalsheep wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 10:11pm
rmurphy195 wrote: 12 Aug 2021, 7:33pm My "old guys rule" flask does very nicely thanks, with the hot drink pre-made in it. No fuss, no bother, no need to find a flat fireproof surface e.g. lump of rock, no risk of starting a fire especially given the times we live in. Not forgetting a sarnie/banana/flapjack of course! Takes up less room than a stove/gas bottle etc.
Flasks are more convenient, stoves are more fun!
I think that the above captures some points quite nicely. I’m a Flask user but if a Stove makes your ride, your excursion, more enjoyable then - assuming if it is safe and legal to do so - why not have that pleasure? Stove, Flask or Cafe are all options to pick from as you can and wish to.

From the perspective of learning I’d love to hear more about what Stoves people use and to see pictures of them. Flasks and Cafes work for me but just understanding other options is good ... and their might be a time when I’m glad of the extra option. Show us your Stove & Brew Kit pic’s please.
Don’t fret, it’s OK to: ride a simple old bike; ride slowly, walk, rest and admire the view; ride off-road; ride in your raincoat; ride by yourself; ride in the dark; and ride one hundred yards or one hundred miles. Your bike and your choices to suit you.
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Nigel wrote: 16 Aug 2021, 12:02pm
andrew_s wrote: 15 Aug 2021, 6:57pm
Airsporter1st wrote: 13 Aug 2021, 12:05pm There is a patent for a catalytic camping stove, which would ensure compliance with the regs, but I don’t know if there are any in production yet…..
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4588373A/en
https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/reviews/ ... sr-reactor
From the review, absolutely no use for the "no flames" laws in some UK national parks.
The stove requires a naked flame lighter or sparking device to get it going, and there is clearly a flame involved....


- Nigel
I don’t see any resemblance between the catalytic stove referred to in the patent and the non-catalytic one reviewed.
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Any more stove sets out their?

Esbit do something using solid fuel and a nice looking integrated boiling set (their CS585HA) for circa £25 on Amazon. I’ve no idea how good it is, whether it smells or whether it’s value for money, etc.
(Edit. Further on-line research suggests that they really are impracticality slow, and very probably overpriced in this country too.)

I think that Trangia Mini’s aren’t much more than that at the moment ...

Edit. The Meths Cook-sets from Speedster Stoves look interesting too, another option:
https://speedsterstoves.co.uk/stoves.html
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Don’t fret, it’s OK to: ride a simple old bike; ride slowly, walk, rest and admire the view; ride off-road; ride in your raincoat; ride by yourself; ride in the dark; and ride one hundred yards or one hundred miles. Your bike and your choices to suit you.
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Stove manufacturers seem to be taking the same route as cycles, a specialist stove for every occasion.
It won't do to be seen with wrong stove in the wrong place.
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jb wrote: 6 Aug 2021, 12:28pm I take an old fashioned paraffin stove from time to time just for the hell of it.
After your alert (above) I wonder for how much longer the fashion police will allow that :D .
Don’t fret, it’s OK to: ride a simple old bike; ride slowly, walk, rest and admire the view; ride off-road; ride in your raincoat; ride by yourself; ride in the dark; and ride one hundred yards or one hundred miles. Your bike and your choices to suit you.
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Carlton green wrote: 21 Aug 2021, 5:37pm
jb wrote: I take an old fashioned paraffin stove from time to time just for the hell of it.
After your alert (above) I wonder for how much longer the fashion police will allow that :D .
I'm expecting to be closed down along with my coal fired fire place any day now.
BUT, in some small corner of England in some little valley far far away my stove WILL burn on, brews will be made and brass will be polished. :lol:
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In Canada we allow flames because it is the only way to cook most of the time. A lot of campsites are very isolated and virtually none have restaurants anywhere nearby. It is a completely different camping experience to what you have. Not better, or worse, just not the same.
I used to love making hot chocolate or tea when xc skiing. On a winter bike ride where you live, it would be great.
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