Orbea Terra mudguard fixing advice

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Orbea Terra mudguard fixing advice

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I bought an Orbea Terra earlier in the year and am enjoying it on the rare occasions I manage to get out on it. One frustration with it though is it that I planned to fit proper mudguards on it for the winter but the rear fixing point is halfway down the seat tube, not at the bottom bracket, I can't for the life of me figure out how you fit a standard mudguard here. Does anyone else on here have any experience of successfully fitting one to this bike? I may still need to buy the brake bridge mount too.
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My wife had a Trek with a similar arrangement. I ended up making a hole in the mudguard at the appropriate point and fixing it to the seat tube. The bottom of the mudguard was then tucked between the chain stays. If you wanted to secure it further at that point, you could use one or two zip ties to secure it to the chain stays.
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Something like the 1990(ish) frames by Daniel Salmon? Shorten the mudguard to suit..
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Daipink wrote: 14 Aug 2021, 7:23am I bought an Orbea Terra earlier in the year and am enjoying it on the rare occasions I manage to get out on it. One frustration with it though is it that I planned to fit proper mudguards on it for the winter but the rear fixing point is halfway down the seat tube, not at the bottom bracket, I can't for the life of me figure out how you fit a standard mudguard here. Does anyone else on here have any experience of successfully fitting one to this bike? I may still need to buy the brake bridge mount too.
Is that the carbon framed bike ? -- I had that on my short list of bikes in 2019 but ended up buying an aluminum Pinnacle Arkose R2.
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Photos like those provided by tatanab would help. I don't know the bike, but the key things are clearance (which looks OK from the Terra Web site), and whether there's a chainstay bridge to which the mudguard could be fixed. If there's limited clearance then you need to be careful, in case stones etc. get jammed between guard and wheel. Especially if it's the kind of bike that you may ride off-road?

I've got one bike on which the guards are still fixed with zip ties, as suggested by TrevA, but at the brake bridge, because the original bridge failed and we did an emergency repair on an Audax ride; it's so good that I've never bothered to change it. My first thought would be to use zip ties at the chainstay bridge (if provided). Otherwise, I would want full length because of protecting the frame/BB area; with a shortened guard, you're going to get more water running down the seat tube towards the BB. So probably TrevA's idea.

But, failing everything else, cutting the mudguard short should work. Just be careful not to split it.
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TrevA wrote: 14 Aug 2021, 8:17am My wife had a Trek with a similar arrangement. I ended up making a hole in the mudguard at the appropriate point and fixing it to the seat tube. The bottom of the mudguard was then tucked between the chain stays. If you wanted to secure it further at that point, you could use one or two zip ties to secure it to the chain stays.
Yes. Might need a spacer off the seat tube/ bracket.

Other options include a stay from the bracket to the original fitting on the mudguard..

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Jdsk wrote: 14 Aug 2021, 12:12pmYes. Might need a spacer off the seat tube/ bracket.
On the complete picture of the Salmon (above), if you zoom in you can see that I have a spacer in that position. Bare frame picture just has a screw fitted.
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I don’t think the Terra has a brake bridge (my son has the same bike). A lot of disc braked bikes don’t come with a brake bridge (My son in law’s GT Grade gravel bike doesn’t either), but you can buy a brake/mudguard bridge that clips onto the seat stays.
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Epic Cycles show a brake bridge on the alloy model, but not on the carbon.
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I have a bike with no bridge at the chainstays so use the clip thingy that would hold a single gear lever on a down tube. fit it right down by the BB. Bolt through guard into it. I have thought about a bit of metal bolted to the cable guide under the BB and curving up to the end of the guard. It could be pop rivert to the guard and fitted under that plastic cable guide.
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Thanks all for the replies, and even looking up the bike online to give advice! Here are some photos (good idea!) and I had kind of arrived at same solution some have suggested. I'll buy the brake bridge fitting (goes on with o-rings apparently) and drill a hole in the guard to use seat tube fit point, cut it down if it doesn't stay in place at the bottom bracket, looks a bit fiddly to zip tie though I have done that on other bikes, most recently on a hub geared hybrid where I discovered that though the bike shop fitted guards when I bought it they didn't remove the rear wheel to bolt the rear guard in place at the BB.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/bBC8muqjSQFZuitF7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ACMbtv6NCMWtCF688

It is the carbon version and it's great fun to ride, need (want?) a spare set of wheels for off road tyres as mainly use it on the road for now
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I can't see your pics
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Neither can I. Safari on macOS.

Got it: They're Google images. You need to find the URL of the image, not the URL of the Google page with all of the control elements etc.

See next post.

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Jdsk wrote: 15 Aug 2021, 8:58am Neither can I. Safari on macOS.

Got it: They're Google images. You need to find the URL of the image, not the URL of the Google page with all of the control elements etc.
Entirely by chance I found that I could see the picture by right clicking on the image icon and selecting "open in new tab".
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