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Hi,
This is just surfaced on the news.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16275437/ ... ing-carl/y
"Katie Price has been charged with driving while disqualified following her alleged drink-drug car smash this week.

Emergency services rushed to the scene at around 6.30am yesterday and arrested the 43-year-old reality star for alleged drink and drug-driving.

Sources told The Sun she had "stayed up all night partying with a few close friends" before rolling her BMW.

Meanwhile her family shared a message saying their "worst fears nearly came true" in her alleged "drink-drive" crash, adding "we have for some time been concerned about Kate's wellbeing and overall mental health.

"Today our worst fears nearly came true. As a family we have been and will continue to help Kate get the help she needs..."We hope that she will realise that she cannot battle her issues alone," they wrote on Instagram"

I'll seem to remember that this person has a previous history.
When should constant drink driving and receiving bans finally mean Enough is enough?
The latest escapade yesterday landed the driver in hospital!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Price

"Driving
In October 2003 charges of speeding were dropped against Price when police failed to arrest her for the offence in the statutory time limit of 12 weeks.[79]

In June 2008, Price was convicted of driving while using a mobile phone in April 2008; she received three points on her driving licence.[80] In July 2010, Price was convicted in her absence for speeding in September 2009.[81]

In 2009 charges of speeding and failing to supply information about who was driving, against Price were dropped due to prosecutorial errors in the collection of the evidence against her.[82] In July 2010 Price was convicted in her absence for speeding in September 2009. She was fined £250 and £500 prosecution costs; Price claimed she was "being hounded by Papparazzi" which was rejected by magistrates.[81] In September 2010 Price was given three points after being convicted for failing to be in proper control of a vehicle in February 2010 that year and fined £1,000, £650 court costs, and a £15 victim surcharge.[83] In December 2010 Price was banned from driving for six months by Crawley Magistrates court for accumulating 13 points on her driving licence after being given an additional three points on her licence for speeding in Pyecombe, West Sussex in December 2009.[84]

In April 2012 Price won an appeal against a conviction for two counts of failing to give information regarding a driver's identity regarding speeding tickets issued to her relating to offences in London in 2011. Price argued she had not seen the tickets as she did not open her own post.[85] In July 2015 Price was convicted of failing to stop at a red light at Buck Barn in West Sussex. Price was given three points and fined £700, costs of £450 and a victim surcharge of £70.[86] In February 2018 Price was banned from driving for six months under totting up of points on her licence. In July 2018 Price reported herself to the police for driving while disqualified.[87]

In January 2019, Price was disqualified from driving for three months after breaching the conditions of a previous driving ban in July 2018 and given an additional six points on her licence,[88] and the following month was banned from driving for a further three months after her blood alcohol level was tested as being near twice the legal limit while in charge of a vehicle. Price had been found by police in the backseat of a vehicle in August 2018 after it had crashed. Price was ordered to pay £2,425 in costs and fines. Charges of being drunk in charge of a vehicle were dropped due to a lack of evidence.[89] In October 2019 Price was convicted of failing to provide details of the driver of the vehicle involved, relating to the crash in August 2018, she received six points, was fined £440, £144 in costs and was banned for two years.[citation needed] Later in 2019 Price received a fourth driving ban within two years, she appealed and the ban was reduced to 18 months in December 2019.[90][91][92]

On 28 September 2021 it was reported that Price had been rushed to hospital after a 'drink-drive' crash near Partridge Green. A spokesman for Sussex Police said officers had responded to reports of a single-vehicle collision on the B2135 near Partridge Green around 6.20am: "A woman, 43, was arrested on suspicion of driving while above the legal limit for alcohol and drugs, and has been taken to hospital to be checked over."

I'm not clear what point you are making

Perhaps there's the suggestion that as a celeb she's been getting more lenient treatment.

But if all the above history adds up, and the drink-drug-drive allegations stick, perhaps it'll be custodial this time around. We need such people off the roads, whatever their celebrity status.

Incidentally, all the places mentioned in the report are quite near where we live. Where does this woman hang out, I wonder?

She clearly needs help.

In order to protect other people she should have the privilege of driving on public roads removed. For that privilege to be restored there needs to be reason to conclude that she won't do anything similar again. That process might be time-consuming and expensive, and it might not be possible to reach that conclusion.

The above has nothing to do with punishment. That's a separate matter, and we'd do better to handle it separately.

Jonathan

Whilst I know nothing about Ms Price or her history, I do wonder if for many celebrities such similar cases (e.g. repeated speeding, drunk, driving whilst banned) actually becomes a win-win situation. For celebrities, appearing in the press is their life blood and as the world loses interest in them and having their picture plastered all over the papers for some driving offence gets them the prominence they need/seek/want/their perfume range needs.

If they get done, many are pretty wealthy anyway and they get their picture out there reminding the world they still exist and that their 10th memoir (covering the last 3 weeks) is available on Amazon.

Ian

I don't know who she is but anyone who has a history of driving offences like this has a problem.
Their driving days should be ended to protect the public.

francovendee wrote: ↑29 Sep 2021, 12:49pm I don't know who she is but anyone who has a history of driving offences like this has a problem.
Their driving days should be ended to protect the public.

Katie Price AKA Jordan.
Much operated on large chested ‘model’.
She lives in her own little world where rules don’t apply.
She’ll do it again regardless of the outcome.
Her kids must be so proud.

On the other hand, I'm reading a charming children's book at the mo' - Finn Family Moonintroll. Bit odd... And next, I'm going to re-read Robinson Crusoe.

simonineaston wrote: ↑29 Sep 2021, 1:18pm On the other hand, I'm reading a charming children's book at the mo' - Finn Family Moonintroll. Bit odd... And next, I'm going to re-read Robinson Crusoe.

I've just read Moominpapa at Sea.

Jdsk wrote: ↑29 Sep 2021, 12:24pm She clearly needs help.

In order to protect other people she should have the privilege of driving on public roads removed. For that privilege to be restored there needs to be reason to conclude that she won't do anything similar again. That process might be time-consuming and expensive, and it might not be possible to reach that conclusion.

The above has nothing to do with punishment. That's a separate matter, and we'd do better to handle it separately. (My emphasis.)

Jonathan

As I thought, it seems this person is already disqualified

Reality TV star Katie Price has been charged with driving without insurance and while disqualified following a car crash on Tuesday, say police.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-58733613

Hi,
So her family say their worst fear is nearly happened.
But what about the rest of us.

Definitely a long ban is needed , And no getting back on the road until it can be seen they have changed their ways permanently.

Punishment?
Maybe the jury is still out whether or not a Custodial would change anything/send a message to the other rich and infamous.

NATURAL ANKLING wrote: ↑29 Sep 2021, 1:43pm ....
Definitely a long ban is needed , And no getting back on the road until it can be seen they have changed their ways permanently.
...

But given it seems she was already banned and must have felt her ban (and lack on any insurance) should not stop her driving, how would more bans work? She'll just drive again (no license, no insurance) when she feels like it. Is there any way to enforce punishment and public safety under such circumstances?

Edit: Only thing I can think of is for repeat offenses make the upper limit of find e.g. 20% of income+assets+everything. (or higher or minimum rather than maximum).

Ian

I see it's now reported she's pleaded guilty and the case is adjourned to 15 December for sentencing, with a view to her receiving treatment meanwhile. It's suggested she's looking at bankruptcy so big fines may be impractical.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-58733613

Who is Katie Price aka Jordon?
Never heard of her.


Yes ............. I know I could Google her, but why bother?
Obviously some celeb who no-one would be interested in if they didn't buy a tabloid newspaper ...................

Mick F wrote: ↑29 Sep 2021, 7:29pm Who is Katie Price aka Jordon?
Never heard of her.


Yes ............. I know I could Google her, but why bother?
Obviously some celeb who no-one would be interested in if they didn't buy a tabloid newspaper ...................

All I know of her is this row, when she wrote about migrants. A nasty woman.

The UN condemned the depiction of African migrants as “cockroaches” and a “plague of feral humans” in the article last year, entitled “Rescue boats? I’d use gunships to stop migrants.”

IPSO dismissed complaints that the article was “discriminatory” under the Editor’s Code.

The watchdog said a discrimination breach could apply only to identified individuals, not to a category or group of people.

I guess this exclusion from the discrimination law is why it is fine to abuse cyclists too.