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Re: crimping tool - good buy or white elephant?
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 1:51pm
by pete75
simonineaston wrote: ↑21 Oct 2021, 12:12pm
Blast& Balderdash!! I just splashed £19 for the tool & a 40 piece set! That's a difference of several "adult beverages", even by Bristol's craft brewery prices !! Good Spot, dd
It's mainly an insulation stripper, which it's good at, but hasn't got a ratchet like your crimper relying only on how hard you can squeeze the handles. Yours has a vastly superior crimping action.
Re: crimping tool - good buy or white elephant?
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 2:13pm
by Wilhelmus
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Re: crimping tool - good buy or white elephant?
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 3:41pm
by PhilD28
Wilhelmus wrote: ↑21 Oct 2021, 2:13pm
DevonDamo wrote: ↑21 Oct 2021, 12:00pm
Lidl are selling a crimping tool from next Thursday for £7.99.
https://www.lidl.co.uk/p/diy-tools/park ... set/p46734
Lidl's 'Parkside' brand covers the full range from excellent to awful, so I wouldn't have particularly high expectations over this thing, but there's never any drama about returning stuff so it's a risk-free punt.
A word of advice from a qualified radio engineer. Unless you're really worried about the health aspect, avoid lead-free 'solder.' There's no such thing. Solder is an alloy of lead and tin, always has been and always will be. Accept no substitutes.
I'm not sure what you are saying here, are you implying that "lead free solder" contains lead?
Re: crimping tool - good buy or white elephant?
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 3:57pm
by Jdsk
PhilD28 wrote: ↑21 Oct 2021, 3:41pm
Wilhelmus wrote: ↑21 Oct 2021, 2:13pm
DevonDamo wrote: ↑21 Oct 2021, 12:00pm
Lidl are selling a crimping tool from next Thursday for £7.99.
https://www.lidl.co.uk/p/diy-tools/park ... set/p46734
Lidl's 'Parkside' brand covers the full range from excellent to awful, so I wouldn't have particularly high expectations over this thing, but there's never any drama about returning stuff so it's a risk-free punt.
A word of advice from a qualified radio engineer. Unless you're really worried about the health aspect, avoid lead-free 'solder.' There's no such thing. Solder is an alloy of lead and tin, always has been and always will be. Accept no substitutes.
I'm not sure what you are saying here, are you implying that "lead free solder" contains lead?
That's what I guessed on first reading. But now I think that it means that it isn't "proper" solder...
Jonathan
Re: crimping tool - good buy or white elephant?
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 4:03pm
by PhilD28
Jdsk wrote: ↑21 Oct 2021, 3:57pm
PhilD28 wrote: ↑21 Oct 2021, 3:41pm
Wilhelmus wrote: ↑21 Oct 2021, 2:13pm
A word of advice from a qualified radio engineer. Unless you're really worried about the health aspect, avoid lead-free 'solder.' There's no such thing. Solder is an alloy of lead and tin, always has been and always will be. Accept no substitutes.
I'm not sure what you are saying here, are you implying that "lead free solder" contains lead?
That's what I guessed on first reading. But now I think that it means that it isn't "proper" solder...
Jonathan
Oh I see, I think most who have used both would agree on the benefits of leaded solder but of course lead free solder is still solder and is the term used by 100% of the industry.
I use leaded solder for pipework maintenance jobs where leaded solder was previously used but only in non potable water systems but of course lead free for potable water.
For wiring my preference is still leaded solder for lots of reasons and I keep a roll handy. On bike wiring I use crimps.
Re: crimping tool - good buy or white elephant?
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 4:45pm
by Wilhelmus
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Re: crimping tool - good buy or white elephant?
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 5:09pm
by PhilD28
Wilhelmus wrote: ↑21 Oct 2021, 4:45pm
I wasn't suggesting that lead-free solder contains lead. I don't know what it does contain as a substitute for lead, and I'm unlikely ever to find out, because I won't be using it. I spent most of my life drinking water supplied through lead pipes, not just copper pipes joined with lead solder, and I'm still here and fighting fit. All this health and safety stuff is nonsense, in my opinion. The evidence connecting ill-health with lead, whether in solder, paint or petrol, was far from conclusive. They'd be better investigating the health effects of mobile phone signals and electricity power lines, but those concerns, much discussed about twenty years ago, seem to have been hushed up. Powerful commercial interests have powerful friends.
I'm sorry but a study of the health one individual isn't a robust enough methodology regarding the non risks of lead as a neurotoxin. I suggest prior to anyone who thinks health and safety re lead is nonsense that they read this.
https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/188365304.pdf
Re: crimping tool - good buy or white elephant?
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 6:06pm
by Wilhelmus
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Re: crimping tool - good buy or white elephant?
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 6:33pm
by Jdsk
Wilhelmus wrote: ↑21 Oct 2021, 6:06pmBefore the invention of the microscope and more advanced instruments, and the classification of elements, was our ancestors' understanding of the world so incomplete?
Yes.
And never before have so many people known so much about the world that is actually true.
Jonathan
Re: crimping tool - good buy or white elephant?
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 6:41pm
by Wilhelmus
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Re: crimping tool - good buy or white elephant?
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 7:02pm
by gazza_d
I think a crimping tool is a useful addition and not a white elephant although the one I currently have is very poor and not much better than a pair of pliers.
A decent crimped joint can be strong and reliable. Plenty of auto connections are crimped for example.
There will be a trip to Lidl next Thursday. That looks like a bargain
Re: crimping tool - good buy or white elephant?
Posted: 28 Oct 2021, 7:01am
by Sweep
I know nothing about the quality, but from today as one of its weekly specials Lidl is doing a crimping tool set.
https://www.lidl.co.uk/p/diy-tools/park ... set/p46734
Would be interested in feedback from anyone who gets in and gets one early, or has bought one before if they've sold it before.
Re: crimping tool - good buy or white elephant?
Posted: 28 Oct 2021, 9:56am
by alexnharvey
Sweep wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 7:01am
I know nothing about the quality, but from today as one of its weekly specials Lidl is doing a crimping tool set.
https://www.lidl.co.uk/p/diy-tools/park ... set/p46734
Would be interested in feedback from anyone who gets in and gets one early, or has bought one before if they've sold it before.
It's really primarily an automatic wire stripper with a very limited crimping function tacked on. If you want a crimper buy a ratcheting crimping tool.
Re: crimping tool - good buy or white elephant?
Posted: 28 Oct 2021, 11:16am
by Sweep
alexnharvey wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 9:56am
Sweep wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 7:01am
I know nothing about the quality, but from today as one of its weekly specials Lidl is doing a crimping tool set.
https://www.lidl.co.uk/p/diy-tools/park ... set/p46734
Would be interested in feedback from anyone who gets in and gets one early, or has bought one before if they've sold it before.
It's really primarily an automatic wire stripper with a very limited crimping function tacked on. If you want a crimper buy a ratcheting crimping tool.
thanks - the ratcheting type is the one Simon bought I take it?
edit - confirmed above by pete I see - left here for ratcheting stress.
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by jimster99
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