It's not untested. It's old technology that's been in place and functioning perfectly here in Scandinavia for decades. I actually struggle to think of anyone that I know here who doesn't have one.irc wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 12:45pmI see no need to be an early adopter. I know nobody with a heat pump. No relatives, friends, or neighbours. I have no intention of getting one soon. By the time (if ever) I get one I will be able to speak to other local users in the same local climate and similar housing for real world facts and figures. The planet can wait. If it survives all the coal China is burning it will survive me keeping my gas boiler for a decade or two.
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For all the wonders of technology and of the petrochemical industry's insulation, there's little more effective than the simplicity and effectiveness of the sun's radiation acting on a house designed to make good use of it. The pleasure of feeling the heat of the sun after a couple of cooler days is one which never fades.853 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2023, 5:38pm I turned off all heating in my house on April 1st, and that's not a joke. I don't expect to turn it back on until sometime in November.
One of the 'features' of having a south-facing house is that, from Spring until Autumn, when the sun comes out it can really warm the house and the storage heaters can't store the heat for days and days as they are meant to leak it out. It was a bit chilly yesterday (it was wet and cloudy all day) but not as cool as you'd probably imagine. Sunny today, and the house is lovely and warm.
I have no issue with those in rural areas burning fallen trees, or using wood burners when the grid fails.
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15 degrees C today (in my house) and we haven't had sun for a couple of days; I'm told it's 12 degrees C outside.Biospace wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 11:25amFor all the wonders of technology and of the petrochemical industry's insulation, there's little more effective than the simplicity and effectiveness of the sun's radiation acting on a house designed to make good use of it. The pleasure of feeling the heat of the sun after a couple of cooler days is one which never fades.853 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2023, 5:38pm I turned off all heating in my house on April 1st, and that's not a joke. I don't expect to turn it back on until sometime in November.
One of the 'features' of having a south-facing house is that, from Spring until Autumn, when the sun comes out it can really warm the house and the storage heaters can't store the heat for days and days as they are meant to leak it out. It was a bit chilly yesterday (it was wet and cloudy all day) but not as cool as you'd probably imagine. Sunny today, and the house is lovely and warm.
I have no issue with those in rural areas burning fallen trees, or using wood burners when the grid fails.
Automatic, silent heat that comes on most (but not all) days
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From the first time in the year that it is warm enough to sit outdoors in the sun, even under blankets, Norwegians do so, and most houses here have terraces and balconies to take advantage of the sun. Multi-family buildings often have a roof terrace. Not many people have conservatories here, though, which I have never completely understood.Biospace wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 11:25am
For all the wonders of technology and of the petrochemical industry's insulation, there's little more effective than the simplicity and effectiveness of the sun's radiation acting on a house designed to make good use of it. The pleasure of feeling the heat of the sun after a couple of cooler days is one which never fades.
Otherwise, houses here are designed to warm in the sun & retain heat well, with well-insulated walls & roofs, and often with dark colours.
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17degC outside, and we were sitting on the decking earlier.
I've come in now, and lit the fire using scrap wood and chunks of beech and birch.
22degC in the livingroom and we have LOTS of hot water now!
I've come in now, and lit the fire using scrap wood and chunks of beech and birch.
22degC in the livingroom and we have LOTS of hot water now!
Mick F. Cornwall
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We sit outside in the sun often and have been doing so for some weeks now. If its chilly we have a fluffy blanket around our knees which was a very welcome gift from my pals in Maine. We often eat breakfast outside too. Today been working on the fruit and veg patch planting raspberry canes, strawberrys and leeks. Spuds, mangetout, sugar snaps and carrots tomorrow. Long may it remain dryish..
Heating is off now
Al
Heating is off now
Al
Reuse, recycle, thus do your bit to save the planet.... Get stuff at auctions, Dump, Charity Shops, Facebook Marketplace, Ebay, Car Boots. Choose an Old House, and a Banger ..... And cycle as often as you can......
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Thought this easterly breeze has been keeping the temp in my house on the cool/cold threshold. The house doesn't get a lot if sun. I still have the heating coming on morning and night but just about managing with it off during the day.
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The variety of house colours in Scandinavia is very attractive to the eye although with good insulation, the darker colours should no longer have much effect on internal temperatures. Although it's very pleasant to sit outside with your back to a warm wall on a day like much of Britain has had today - bright sunshine and cool air.Vorpal wrote: ↑19 Apr 2023, 9:42amFrom the first time in the year that it is warm enough to sit outdoors in the sun, even under blankets, Norwegians do so, and most houses here have terraces and balconies to take advantage of the sun. Multi-family buildings often have a roof terrace. Not many people have conservatories here, though, which I have never completely understood.Biospace wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 11:25am
For all the wonders of technology and of the petrochemical industry's insulation, there's little more effective than the simplicity and effectiveness of the sun's radiation acting on a house designed to make good use of it. The pleasure of feeling the heat of the sun after a couple of cooler days is one which never fades.
Otherwise, houses here are designed to warm in the sun & retain heat well, with well-insulated walls & roofs, and often with dark colours.
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An acquaintence has just returned from Oz and we were swapping the obligatory weather remarks and without thinking, I said "well of course, it's still winter here..." before it dawned on me that it's nearly May !! Brrrrrr...
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(on the look out for Armageddon, on board a Brompton nano & ever-changing Moultons)
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I'm off on a bike ride shortly, and yes, it's still winter!
I'll be wearing my bib tights, a base layer, and a thickish top, as well as shoes and socks.
Nearly May?
I should be cycling in shorts and sandals at this time of year. Brrrrr!
I'll be wearing my bib tights, a base layer, and a thickish top, as well as shoes and socks.
Nearly May?
I should be cycling in shorts and sandals at this time of year. Brrrrr!
Mick F. Cornwall
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Al
Reuse, recycle, thus do your bit to save the planet.... Get stuff at auctions, Dump, Charity Shops, Facebook Marketplace, Ebay, Car Boots. Choose an Old House, and a Banger ..... And cycle as often as you can......
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It's lovely and warm in the early summer sunshine ...................... but there's a strong bitterly chilly easterly wind out there.
Nice a warm?
17/17/18degC but with a large wind-chill factor.
Sat outside after getting home and it was lovely. Move to the other side and still in warm sunshine, but it's bitterly cold.
On my ride today, I was very warm and perhaps over-warm at times, and other times very glad I had my base layer, tights, and jumper on as it was COLD. Sandals would have been stupid, but shoes and socks were fine.
Nice a warm?
17/17/18degC but with a large wind-chill factor.
Sat outside after getting home and it was lovely. Move to the other side and still in warm sunshine, but it's bitterly cold.
On my ride today, I was very warm and perhaps over-warm at times, and other times very glad I had my base layer, tights, and jumper on as it was COLD. Sandals would have been stupid, but shoes and socks were fine.
Mick F. Cornwall
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I was surprised to see it's almost six weeks since the boiler was used to heat the house, our previous one usually needed some heating right through to the end of April and the living area stove would often be lit on evenings well into May.
There have been three or four evenings when the living area has felt cooler than ideal when there has been thick cloud and air temperatures have been under 8C, which is when the large oven was used to cook dinner.
There have been three or four evenings when the living area has felt cooler than ideal when there has been thick cloud and air temperatures have been under 8C, which is when the large oven was used to cook dinner.
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It was only yesterday that I did my seasonal switch from long sleeved tops back to T shirts. Even so, I'm not entirely sure I've done the right thing - ne'er cast a clout 'till May be out!
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The reason we have a problem at all is that there are 8 billion people who can all argue that their own contribution is negligible.
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― Friedrich Nietzsche