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delilah wrote: ↑31 Jan 2022, 2:30pm I generally have no trouble getting the tyre back on My problem is getting the bead away from the rim so that I can insert the levers to take it off. I don't think the Glider will help here . The problem is using non tubeless tyres on a tubeless ready rim. You can't move the bead away. I have resorted to using a screwdriver to push the bead away but it does have the habit of damaging the tyre wall.

Ive got a new bike with Hunt tubeless-ready wheels and clincher tyres. With your comment about difficulty in getting the tyres on and off I thought I'd better have a go before I have to do it during a ride.
I'm happy to say it was easy. Using the classic technique of starting opposite the valve I was able to move the beads to the central well and only required one tyre lever to hook the bead over the rim edge at the valve. Yes, moving the beads to the central is a little bit harder (the central well seems narrower) but it only took an extra minute or so as I put tension on the tyre at the valve position as I go around with the other hand squeezing the beads inwards. Putting the tyre back on was even easier and required no tyre levers.
Happy.

531colin wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 11:27pm I think we need a CUK member offer!

But is there any public automated way to authenticate members yet, such as OpenID?

I started at Spa maybe 15 years ago; we used to take an order over the phone, pack it up and send it off with an invoice, and the instruction to write the invoice number on the back of the cheque, which the customer sent after they had received the goods.

A very few years later, with all the modern "advantages" .....credit cards, E bay......we were getting toe-rags phoning up and wanting 2 Brooks Professional saddles, one for themselves and one for their mate, and is it all right if I use my mate's credit card but you post it to my address?

Somebody wanting a TA chainring and a 5 or 6 speed screw on block to keep his old tourer going would always pay up promptly.

2 brooks pro?.....and tomorrow they'll be on E bay.......

An automated way to authenticate members? that sounds like all the modern tripe with passwords and registering your e mail address.....the only person all that nonsense keeps out of my accounts is me.....the scallywags no doubt have found a way round it all.

Bah humbug!!!!

Simple promo codes seem to satisfy CUK and the various retailers it organizes discounts with.

Bmblbzzz wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022, 6:13pm Simple promo codes seem to satisfy CUK and the various retailers it organizes discounts with.

Or not so simple, eg Half odds. But the point is that retailers have to beg them to organize discounts. They can't just decide to offer member discounts.

mjr wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022, 8:22pm

Bmblbzzz wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022, 6:13pm Simple promo codes seem to satisfy CUK and the various retailers it organizes discounts with.

Or not so simple, eg Half odds. But the point is that retailers have to beg them to organize discounts. They can't just decide to offer member discounts.

The Halfords discount is simple, print the voucher, take it to Halfords and present it at the till and get 10% off. How much more simple do you want it to be?

It only costs £10. 10% discount is £1 and 20% is £2 but maybe that'significant for some.
It works for me and putting my tyres back on seems a "breeze" - at least at home!

I really thought I had already replied on this topic but I can't find it anywhere (nor on any other forums I frequent that this topic might arise on). What I thought I had said was that the tool will still not overcome the physics (explained in 531colin's video) whereby when you have a non-stretchy bead with a diameter smaller than the rim (at the lip/hook) but bigger than the diameter of the rim at the well - you will need the bead sufficiently seated in the well to get it over the lip on the opposite edge - unless the tool pulls hard enough on the bead to pull it into the well - but once you know this, then you can do the job without the tool.

The other thing I thought I had said is that I can see a real benefit in it if you have issues with your hands. I have eczema and have very weak skin on my hands on account of it and also on account of the steroid creams used to treat it. I don't get punctures often but the last one I got, I managed to rub the skin clean off the end of my thumb (like a detached blister) when putting the tyre back on at the roadside.

If ever I'm in the market for new levers or if I'm struggling to put tyres on without causing damage/discomfort to myself, I reckon it will be one of these that I go for - to me, it doesn't do anything much different to what I do without it nor does it employ a levering solution to apply brute force - it just seems to do what I do with my hands but a lot easier and safer.

Well, after reading some of the early positive reviews here, I bought the Tyre Glider only to determine it to be a piece of plastic trash. I tried to mount a tire on a Brompton rim and found that the tool actually would not even mount on the rim. The Brompton rim is thick with barely developed lip. Even if you manage to push the Glider on the rim, it does nothing as far as the tire mounting is concerned. On the small wheel the tire mounts quite tightly, too tightly for the tool. The funny thing is that I can mount that tire with bare hands only, manipulating the tire intelligently, which the tool cannot do. In the other direction, it does not get any better. The Glider does not manage to squeeze in between the bead and the rim. Regular levers work fine there.

With this the Glider will be relegated to a museum artifact in my collection of tire tools. Come to think of it, it might be the worst of the tire tools I ever got.

2_i wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 6:42am Well, after reading some of the early positive reviews here, I bought the Tyre Glider only to determine it to be a piece of plastic trash. I tried to mount a tire on a Brompton rim and found that the tool actually would not even mount on the rim. The Brompton rim is thick with barely developed lip. Even if you manage to push the Glider on the rim, it does nothing as far as the tire mounting is concerned. On the small wheel the tire mounts quite tightly, too tightly for the tool. The funny thing is that I can mount that tire with bare hands only, manipulating the tire intelligently, which the tool cannot do. In the other direction, it does not get any better. The Glider does not manage to squeeze in between the bead and the rim. Regular levers work fine there.

With this the Glider will be relegated to a museum artifact in my collection of tire tools. Come to think of it, it might be the worst of the tire tools I ever got.

I suspect this is the case... it was designed for modern rims, not for the chunky ones with massive hooks like the Brompton's... not a big issue I assume, as you say, you can fit a tyre with your bare hands

2_i wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 6:42amWith this the Glider will be relegated to a museum artifact in my collection of tire tools. Come to think of it, it might be the worst of the tire tools I ever got.

Would you prefer £1 to either you or a charity and I'll pay the postage?

: - )

Jonathan

You just need to have the details sent to your 3D printer, so you can print your own. Simples instant karma.

richardfm wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022, 10:25pm

mjr wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022, 8:22pm

Bmblbzzz wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022, 6:13pm Simple promo codes seem to satisfy CUK and the various retailers it organizes discounts with.

Or not so simple, eg Half odds. But the point is that retailers have to beg them to organize discounts. They can't just decide to offer member discounts.

The Halfords discount is simple, print the voucher, take it to Halfords and present it at the till and get 10% off. How much more simple do you want it to be?

That's only simple if you have access to a printer! Some retailers give a discount on quoting a code at checkout. Others simply require you to produce a card. But the larger point is probably that whatever method is used, the discounts are not well publicised by CUK to members.

Bmblbzzz wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 11:58am

richardfm wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022, 10:25pm The Halfords discount is simple, print the voucher, take it to Halfords and present it at the till and get 10% off. How much more simple do you want it to be?

That's only simple if you have access to a printer! Some retailers give a discount on quoting a code at checkout. Others simply require you to produce a card. But the larger point is probably that whatever method is used, the discounts are not well publicised by CUK to members.

I have a Halfords discount through another membership association. Showing the voucher on a 'phone works fine.

(I keep a pdf in Notes on an iPhone.)

Jonathan

richardfm wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022, 10:25pm The Halfords discount is simple, print the voucher, take it to Halfords and present it at the till and get 10% off. How much more simple do you want it to be?

I'd want it to be "present CUK membership at the till." If I have to faff with websites and/or printers before I shop, the discount is less useful. But, as I wrote, that wasn't the main point I was making.