2_i wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 6:42am
Well, after reading some of the early positive reviews here, I bought the Tyre Glider only to determine it to be a piece of plastic trash. I tried to mount a tire on a Brompton rim and found that the tool actually would not even mount on the rim. The Brompton rim is thick with barely developed lip. Even if you manage to push the Glider on the rim, it does nothing as far as the tire mounting is concerned. On the small wheel the tire mounts quite tightly, too tightly for the tool. The funny thing is that I can mount that tire with bare hands only, manipulating the tire intelligently, which the tool cannot do. In the other direction, it does not get any better. The Glider does not manage to squeeze in between the bead and the rim. Regular levers work fine there.
With this the Glider will be relegated to a museum artifact in my collection of tire tools. Come to think of it, it might be the worst of the tire tools I ever got.
Have you passed this report to the makers ?
If so, they have some evidence of a problem/limitation with the design. If you've not told them, why would they be reading this, and hundreds of other forums ?
Or not so simple, eg Half odds. But the point is that retailers have to beg them to organize discounts. They can't just decide to offer member discounts.
The Halfords discount is simple, print the voucher, take it to Halfords and present it at the till and get 10% off. How much more simple do you want it to be?
That's only simple if you have access to a printer! Some retailers give a discount on quoting a code at checkout. Others simply require you to produce a card. But the larger point is probably that whatever method is used, the discounts are not well publicised by CUK to members.
I thought CUK were endlessly banging on about their member benefits, even though some of them are commercial tie ups that don't really do the member any favours https://www.cyclinguk.org/member-benefits
Halfords used to accept the membership card, they changed the requirements for CUK at the same time as they did for BC, I assume it was the retailer's decision. I haven't used it for a while, I get 15% discount via Deliveroo which isn't restricted to cycling products, so maybe CUK and BC should have negotiated a better deal, I get that by showing the bar code in the app, that also just used to be a matter of showing it rather than being scanned.
I don't think retailers have to consult the organisation to offer a discount, would there be a way to stop them? Didn't Spa pointedly offer a discount to CTC members at the time of the name change? I can't imagine all those places offering student or NHS discounts have sought an authority to do so.
PH wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 1:25pm
I thought CUK were endlessly banging on about their member benefits, even though some of them are commercial tie ups that don't really do the member any favours
"Too hard"
"Not made visible to members"
"ENDLESSLY BANGING ON ABOUT ..."
Ha ha ha!
The clearest benefit of CUK is the joy many of you take in knocking them! The bad news: non-members can do that for free!!!
mattheus wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 1:33pm
The clearest benefit of CUK is the joy many of you take in knocking them! The bad news: non-members can do that for free!!!
I get many benefits and even without those would still be glad to be a member.
That's not the same as approving of everything they do.
mattheus wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 1:33pm
The clearest benefit of CUK is the joy many of you take in knocking them! The bad news: non-members can do that for free!!!
I get many benefits and even without those would still be glad to be a member.
That's not the same as approving of everything they do.
i agree. Lots of their work gets on my wick, especially all that pc stuff. Lots of their work serves me well. With the insurance and the magazine, the region support officers, the campaigning and advocacy - I think it’s well worth the money Everything has to compromise on some point.
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Sweep wrote: ↑2 Feb 2022, 1:39pm
interested in more reports of it in use but for now I'll be sticking to colin's system - I use two boot laces.
Please can you point me to a description of 'colin's system'? I'm intrigued.
Jonathan
What I find surprising in the video is how easily the first bead goes over the rim. I have had tyre/rim combinations that are like that but some I've struggled with just the first bead.
"It takes a genius to spot the obvious" - my old physics master.
I don't peddle bikes.
mattheus wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 1:33pm
The clearest benefit of CUK is the joy many of you take in knocking them! The bad news: non-members can do that for free!!!
I get many benefits and even without those would still be glad to be a member.
That's not the same as approving of everything they do.
Have you told them that? Sometimes it's nice to hear these things, otherwise you can feel taken for granted, and only hear the criticisms.
Both sides have to work on a relationship.
S2L wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 10:50am
I suspect this is the case... it was designed for modern rims, not for the chunky ones with massive hooks like the Brompton's... not a big issue I assume, as you say, you can fit a tyre with your bare hands
Even though my hands are capable, I normally use tools because they make the work faster, but what is the point a tool that performs worse than hands?? I have 2 types of tools, taken along and used at home. For the road, I want tools that are light but very versatile, maybe not always optimal but capable of getting me out trouble under a variety of circumstances. Glider does not belong there. At home, I can afford many tools in any size, but I want each particular to shine over other in some particular situation. Glider does not belong there either. Really it is just a piece for illustrating what people came up with and dumbness of the buyer relying on online opinions.
Among the home tools is the Park Tool TL10 that certainly was an inspiration behind Tyre Glider, both for getting a tire on and off. The size is such that you could actually use it as weapon. It is a bit oversized for 16", but if you manage to engage it, it works wonderfully, in stark contrast to the Glider.
2_i wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 6:42am
Well, after reading some of the early positive reviews here, I bought the Tyre Glider only to determine it to be a piece of plastic trash. I tried to mount a tire on a Brompton rim and found that the tool actually would not even mount on the rim. The Brompton rim is thick with barely developed lip. Even if you manage to push the Glider on the rim, it does nothing as far as the tire mounting is concerned. On the small wheel the tire mounts quite tightly, too tightly for the tool. The funny thing is that I can mount that tire with bare hands only, manipulating the tire intelligently, which the tool cannot do. In the other direction, it does not get any better. The Glider does not manage to squeeze in between the bead and the rim. Regular levers work fine there.
With this the Glider will be relegated to a museum artifact in my collection of tire tools. Come to think of it, it might be the worst of the tire tools I ever got.
Prompted by this post, I got two Moulton wheels from the garage and brought them into the house to try out the Tyre Glider on smaller diameter rims. I started on the 16" steel rimmed wheel. The tyre came off OK, now for putting it back on. It was very hard to get the TG clipped onto the rim. I pushed and wiggled and then it broke!
I took some photos and emailed the maker/supplier. He just pointed out that it says on the site (at checkout) "* Please note that the wing clip will fit tyre hook width up to 3.3mm". Well that's true, but it's a bit late at checkout to be reading a footnote. In any case the Moulton 16" steel rim is 3.52mm thick - not a lot over the limit. I wrote back that it should be a warning, not a note. It should state that 3.3 is an absolute maximum.
I was also disappointed to see that the tool was actually on the brittle side. The way in which it broke was sudden with no plastic deformation before the break. It will have to be redesigned with a more tolerant rim clip and a less brittle plastic/filler mix before I try another one. Shame - it worked exceptionally well on regular 700C alloy rims but I wouldn't risk it on a ride. It needs to be bombproof - like the Park Tools blue levers. YMMV
fausto99 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 4:11pm
I pushed and wiggled and then it broke!
I took some photos and emailed the maker/supplier. He just pointed out that it says on the site (at checkout) "* Please note that the wing clip will fit tyre hook width up to 3.3mm". Well that's true, but it's a bit late at checkout to be reading a footnote. In any case the Moulton 16" steel rim is 3.52mm thick - not a lot over the limit. I wrote back that it should be a warning, not a note. It should state that 3.3 is an absolute maximum.
I was also disappointed to see that the tool was actually on the brittle side. The way in which it broke was sudden with no plastic deformation before the break. It will have to be redesigned with a more tolerant rim clip and a less brittle plastic/filler mix before I try another one. Shame - it worked exceptionally well on regular 700C alloy rims but I wouldn't risk it on a ride. It needs to be bombproof - like the Park Tools blue levers. YMMV
I am sorry to hear about the breaking - it seems that I was actually lucky. I totally agree with the need for tool reliability, operation no matter gets thrown at it. I normally carry a reliable dremefa Sport lever set and recently added a couple of Schwalbe levers with clips. These clips greatly facilitate putting tough tires on. For obvious reasons I always carry the same tube repair set with me independent of what I ride, not analyzing what particular tires and rims I have on the particular occasion and whether my set is capable with these or not.
Don't think I'll be ordering one now if that's the manufacturer's response. I remember when Michelin folding tyres came with a set of flat yellow tyre levers, been using those for almost 40yrs and only ever snapped one, good job I've got 2 spare sets!!
davidwgreen wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 2:12pm
Please can you point me to a description of 'colin's system'? I'm intrigued.
Jonathan
What I find surprising in the video is how easily the first bead goes over the rim. I have had tyre/rim combinations that are like that but some I've struggled with just the first bead.
what i have always found surprising in the video is 531Colin's accent as I associate him with Yorkshire!
What I find surprising in the video is how easily the first bead goes over the rim. I have had tyre/rim combinations that are like that but some I've struggled with just the first bead.
what i have always found surprising in the video is 531Colin's accent as I associate him with Yorkshire!
I think he's indicated somewhere on this forum that he wasn't born there.
"It takes a genius to spot the obvious" - my old physics master.
I don't peddle bikes.
MikeF wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 2:26pm
What I find surprising in the video is how easily the first bead goes over the rim. I have had tyre/rim combinations that are like that but some I've struggled with just the first bead.
what i have always found surprising in the video is 531Colin's accent as I associate him with Yorkshire!
I think he's indicated somewhere on this forum that he wasn't born there.
can he tell us where?
(at the risk of him being deported)
