Can the Met be trusted?

[PedallingSquares]

Disgraceful:- https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... don-school

Why did the school allow this?
Both school and police officers have engaged in what is basically sexual assault of a child.

[Bonefishblues]

Have I awoken from a long sleep to find myself in Pinochet's Chile, perhaps?

[reohn2]

Have I awoken from a long sleep to find myself in Pinochet's Chile, perhaps?

Not quite but we're slowly getting there....

[Jdsk]

Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire & Rescue Services:
"Metropolitan Police's approach to corruption not fit for purpose"
https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk ... r-purpose/

Jonathan

[reohn2]

Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire & Rescue Services:
"Metropolitan Police's approach to corruption not fit for purpose"
https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk ... r-purpose/

Jonathan

Should I be surprised?

[Jdsk]

Cressida Dick has won a victory after the government agreed to a review of how she came to leave office after a clash with the London mayor, Sadiq Khan.
The Home Office is expected to announce it will ask Sir Tom Winsor to examine how Dick came to be ousted as commissioner of the Metropolitan police last month, a government source confirmed."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... -met-chief

This seems unlikely to achieve much. It might just accelerate restructuring.

Jonathan

[Psamathe]

Cressida Dick has won a victory after the government agreed to a review of how she came to leave office after a clash with the London mayor, Sadiq Khan.
The Home Office is expected to announce it will ask Sir Tom Winsor to examine how Dick came to be ousted as commissioner of the Metropolitan police last month, a government source confirmed."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... -met-chief

This seems unlikely to achieve much. It might just accelerate restructuring.

Jonathan

I thought she resigned of her own choice. It was reported she was due to attend a meeting with Khan to present her plan to sort out the institutional issues and restore public confidence but instead sent him her resignation. So I don't get this "ousting". Khan wanted a plan for her to retain his confidence (which seemes fair enough) and instead she quit.

Ian

[Jdsk]

Cressida Dick has won a victory after the government agreed to a review of how she came to leave office after a clash with the London mayor, Sadiq Khan.
The Home Office is expected to announce it will ask Sir Tom Winsor to examine how Dick came to be ousted as commissioner of the Metropolitan police last month, a government source confirmed."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... -met-chief

This seems unlikely to achieve much. It might just accelerate restructuring.

I thought she resigned of her own choice. It was reported she was due to attend a meeting with Khan to present her plan to sort out the institutional issues and restore public confidence but instead sent him her resignation. So I don't get this "ousting". Khan wanted a plan for her to retain his confidence (which seemes fair enough) and instead she quit.

Yes.

I'm not expecting much more than that. There might be some detail on bad working relationships between the three parties.

The remit will be interesting... these things don't have natural edges.

Jonathan

[reohn2]

As I see it it's an effort to smear Khan by government meddling because he's of the opposite political persuasion.

[Jdsk]

"My rt hon Friend the Secretary of State for the Home Department (Priti Patel) has today made the following Written Ministerial Statement:
Dame Cressida Dick will conclude her tenure as Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Service in April. She deserves our profound gratitude for her decades of public service and leadership in policing, as well as our best wishes for the future. Dame Cressida has shown exceptional dedication to fighting crime in London and beyond throughout her time as Commissioner, as the first woman to hold the role of Commissioner.
The circumstances in which the outgoing MPS Commissioner is leaving her role warrant a closer look at the legislation which governs the suspension and removal of the Commissioner. I am pleased to announce that Sir Tom Winsor will be undertaking a formal review into the circumstances and implications of Dame Cressida’s departure. Sir Tom brings a wealth of experience, most recently as HM Chief Inspector of Constabulary and Fire & Rescue Services. I will return to this House with his key findings at the earliest opportunity."
https://questions-statements.parliament ... 28/hlws706

Jonathan

[Nearholmer]

The tension between The Home Secretary and The Mayor over who “owns” The Met goes right back to the introduction of the London Mayoralty. Things have got scratchy at times even when both HS and M have been from the same party, and when they are from opposing parties things regularly get super-scratchy.

There is a genuine dilemma, in that The Met has several national roles, rather than simply being the police force for London, so one option Tom Windsor will doubtless look at (again?) is a separation to create a local police force for London, and a National Specialist Unit, covering things like anti-terrorism, royal protection etc.

As well as spreading the commissioner too thinly, the present arrangement gives her/him two masters/mistresses, which cannot be much fun. If either of them publicly express “no confidence” it becomes more or less impossible for the commissioner to do his/her job ……. and it’s one heck of a ruddy difficult job as it is.

Long view is that The Met “goes sour” about once every twenty or thirty years, significant parts becoming incompetent, corrupt, racist, out of touch with public sentiment, that sort of thing, then has to be given a damned good shaking to sort it out and set it on a good course for a while.

Sir Robert Mark was Commissioner in the early 70s, brought in to sort out a corrupt CID, and he famously said something like “a good police force is one that catches more criminals than it employs”.

Do I trust The Met right now? No, on several front I don’t. I think it’s going through one of its bad patches and that things will get worse before they get better, because the very necessary shake-up will damage morale among the good as well as the bad, and cause distraction for a period.

[DaveReading]

There is a genuine dilemma, in that The Met has several national roles, rather than simply being the police force for London, so one option Tom Windsor will doubtless look at (again?) is a separation to create a local police force for London, and a National Specialist Unit, covering things like anti-terrorism, royal protection etc.

That doesn't appear to be within his terms of reference, which are specifically around the circumstances of Cressida Dick's departure.

[Jdsk]

There is a genuine dilemma, in that The Met has several national roles, rather than simply being the police force for London, so one option Tom Windsor will doubtless look at (again?) is a separation to create a local police force for London, and a National Specialist Unit, covering things like anti-terrorism, royal protection etc.

That doesn't appear to be within his terms of reference, which are specifically around the circumstances of Cressida Dick's departure.

I don't know if there will be anything more detailed, but the words in that Ministerial Statement: "I am pleased to announce that Sir Tom Winsor will be undertaking a formal review into the circumstances and implications of Dame Cressida’s departure." allow plenty of scope for comments on the difficulty of serving two masters.

Jonathan

[Nearholmer]

Re-reading it, it does look as if the remit is narrower than I thought, but it’s hard to see how it can avoid the “two masters” business, and that then leads straight on to the huge scope of the job, and whether any human being can ever be expected to do it. Might lead to a “further consideration should be given to” type recommendation.

[Jdsk]

Goldoni meets St Matthew?

Jonathan