The search for "good" coffee
- simonineaston
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Re: The search for "good" coffee
"Good coffee" is one of those predominantly male preserves, where simple common-sense and straightforward solutions are abandoned in favour of chasing chimeras, often at great expense, time & trouble. See too, speaker cables, phono cartridges and camera lenses... 
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Re: The search for "good" coffee
and bikes, and their components.simonineaston wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 12:06pm "Good coffee" is one of those predominantly male preserves, where simple common-sense and straightforward solutions are abandoned in favour of chasing chimeras, often at great expense, time & trouble. See too, speaker cables, phono cartridges and camera lenses...![]()
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Bonefishblues
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Re: The search for "good" coffee
Rubbish.
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...although there are ultimate fishing rods, reels, lines, flies and much else, of course
- kylecycler
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Re: The search for "good" coffee
There's a thread on the US cycling Paceline Forum called 'What's on your coffee bench?' Apparently a 'coffee bench' is a thing ovah theh (like a gun cabinet except not like a gun cabinet)...
https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthre ... ffee+bench
https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthre ... ffee+bench
- PedallingSquares
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Re: The search for "good" coffee
That's your opinion and you are of course entitled to it.I simply don't like instant coffee.It's tasteless and often very bitter especially the own brand stuff.All coffee is not the same just as all beer/wine/whisky is not the same.axel_knutt wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 11:57am Exactly. The best coffee is the stuff you spoon out of a jar and pour boiling water on without all the faff. It's made better still by the thought that the worst cups of coffee I've ever tasted, by a very large margin, were fresh, not instant.
If I'm going to a café and paying £2+ for a cup I expect it not to be instant and I can tell instantly,pardon the pun,if it is!
You have to have a hobbykylecycler wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 1:50pm There's a thread on the US cycling Paceline Forum called 'What's on your coffee bench?' Apparently a 'coffee bench' is a thing ovah theh (like a gun cabinet except not like a gun cabinet)...
https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthre ... ffee+bench
- kylecycler
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Re: The search for "good" coffee
What I don't think anyone has mentioned so far is the aroma like you get in coffee shops. Whenever I've gone over to making coffee in a cafetiere instead of instant coffee, it may or may not taste better (certainly different, not sure about the 'better') but I can't get the aroma like you get in coffee shops, or even get it to smell of anything very much at all - not even coffee!
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Bonefishblues
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Re: The search for "good" coffee
Oh that my sense of smell was back to any degree 
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I like coffee,black and strong.
I find I have to take the good with the not so bad,occasionally in a cafe or restaurant I'll be served a great coffee that suits me fine but most of the time it's just coffee,the thing is the same cafe or restaurant seldom serves the same good coffee twice.
My own coffee at home is the same I more often than not end up with OK coffee,occasionally I end up with great coffee made exactly the same and with the same beans etc...
Go figure
I find I have to take the good with the not so bad,occasionally in a cafe or restaurant I'll be served a great coffee that suits me fine but most of the time it's just coffee,the thing is the same cafe or restaurant seldom serves the same good coffee twice.
My own coffee at home is the same I more often than not end up with OK coffee,occasionally I end up with great coffee made exactly the same and with the same beans etc...
Go figure
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Bonefishblues
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Re: The search for "good" coffee
You're rubbish at making coffee?

- PedallingSquares
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Re: The search for "good" coffee
reohn2 wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 4:16pm I like coffee,black and strong.
I find I have to take the good with the not so bad,occasionally in a cafe or restaurant I'll be served a great coffee that suits me fine but most of the time it's just coffee,the thing is the same cafe or restaurant seldom serves the same good coffee twice.
My own coffee at home is the same I more often than not end up with OK coffee,occasionally I end up with great coffee made exactly the same and with the same beans etc...
Go figure![]()
I wonder if our taste buds change frequently as I have had the same trouble with beer.Come across a really good pint but the second can sometimes taste totally different!?My mates will taste,according to him,as good as the first.
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Nearholmer
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Re: The search for "good" coffee
It’s the point I made back up-thread: failure to control the in-tester variables.
You probably make exactly the same coffee each time, or as near as makes no difference, but it tastes different because you are different each time.
Variations in what you’ve eaten, how well you slept, whether you had a bad day at work yesterday, how much water you drank an hour ago, what the weather is making you feel like, all that sort of stuff.
Is there any coincidence between these rare moments of wonderful coffee and, say, it being the morning after you had very good sex, maybe?
If so, the solution to your coffee making troubles is in your own hands. If you see what I mean.
You probably make exactly the same coffee each time, or as near as makes no difference, but it tastes different because you are different each time.
Variations in what you’ve eaten, how well you slept, whether you had a bad day at work yesterday, how much water you drank an hour ago, what the weather is making you feel like, all that sort of stuff.
Is there any coincidence between these rare moments of wonderful coffee and, say, it being the morning after you had very good sex, maybe?
If so, the solution to your coffee making troubles is in your own hands. If you see what I mean.
Re: The search for "good" coffee
My reliably good coffee is made from Cafedirect Machu Picchu beans (Fairtrade from Peru), ground with a Porlex hand burr grinder (Bought from Hasbean, as mentioned earlier - link - bought in 2015 & still all original parts*, but was half the current price back then. *spares available if needed).
I usually make it in a 1930s "Dripolator" (3 part coffee maker - reservoir at the top, mid section for the coffee & bottom jug for the coffee) but a cafetiere gives a similar result provided you let the water cool a touch after boiling the kettle - boil the water, then grind the beans, then make the coffee.
I usually make it in a 1930s "Dripolator" (3 part coffee maker - reservoir at the top, mid section for the coffee & bottom jug for the coffee) but a cafetiere gives a similar result provided you let the water cool a touch after boiling the kettle - boil the water, then grind the beans, then make the coffee.
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Re: The search for "good" coffee
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Re: The search for "good" coffee
Dunno it's been so long since I had anyNearholmer wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 4:36pm .......Is there any coincidence between these rare moments of wonderful coffee and, say, it being the morning after you had very good sex, maybe?
If you put it like then IDSWYMIf so, the solution to your coffee making troubles is in your own hands. If you see what I mean.
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"All we are not stares back at what we are"
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"All we are not stares back at what we are"
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Re: The search for "good" coffee
Funny you should say that. I bought a 25p packet of Inka which is a Polish coffee substitute with an Eastern Block heritage. I got it to use at the allotment, but it was sufficiently good for me to go back and buy another couple of boxes while it was on offer. It'll not be my everyday drink (which is tea) but it's perfectly acceptable 'coffee' for me.axel_knutt wrote: Exactly. The best coffee is the stuff you spoon out of a jar and pour boiling water on without all the faff. It's made better still by the thought that the worst cups of coffee I've ever tasted, by a very large margin, were fresh, not instant.
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