Good deal? Litespeed Archon C3

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Scooterza
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Good deal? Litespeed Archon C3

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Hi there,

I have just bought a Litespeed Archon C3 online which is always a bit scary! The bike looks to be in good nick other than the usual odd scratch etc from use.

It's 10 speed, with Ultegra groupset. It's got Planet X pro carbon 50 wheels. This bike is from around 2011. I paid £555.
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Does this seem like a good deal? What do you think?

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If all is well with the bike, and it ain't stolen, yes, it does sound like a lot of bike for the money.
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Very nice, just not Italian enough for my tastes
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Hard to tell from the photos but is that an FSA or RaceFace chainset?It doesn't look like Ultegra?
It looks pretty good for an 11 year old bike.They were around £2k new so if everything is OK then when all said and done the frameset is a Litespeed 8)
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It is indeed an FSA chainset. I mixed up terms - Ultegra rear and front derailleur.
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Scooterza wrote: 4 Apr 2022, 4:48pm It is indeed an FSA chainset. I mixed up terms - Ultegra rear and front derailleur.
That doesn't detract anything from the bike.Arguably,Ultegra might look a bit nicer,but that's a personal choice.The frame set is Litespeed and looks very nice whatever the components are 8)
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Nice bike those wheels are worth £250?

The new shape ultegra groupset £250

So your getting the frame free.

How does it ride?

I'm guessing it dosent have the clearance for larger 25mm+ tyres?
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PedallingSquares wrote: 4 Apr 2022, 4:01pm Hard to tell from the photos but is that an FSA or RaceFace chainset?It doesn't look like Ultegra?
It looks pretty good for an 11 year old bike.They were around £2k new so if everything is OK then when all said and done the frameset is a Litespeed 8)
Do litespeed make their own carbon frames?
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alexnharvey wrote: 6 Apr 2022, 8:57am
PedallingSquares wrote: 4 Apr 2022, 4:01pm Hard to tell from the photos but is that an FSA or RaceFace chainset?It doesn't look like Ultegra?
It looks pretty good for an 11 year old bike.They were around £2k new so if everything is OK then when all said and done the frameset is a Litespeed 8)
Do litespeed make their own carbon frames?
Does anyone actually manufacture their own carbon frames.
They brand them as their own but they will probably be made in the far east.The website still states that their Titanium bikes are handmade in Chatanooga but that doesn't mean the Titanium is sourced from the USA either.
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PedallingSquares wrote: 6 Apr 2022, 10:31am
alexnharvey wrote: 6 Apr 2022, 8:57am
PedallingSquares wrote: 4 Apr 2022, 4:01pm Hard to tell from the photos but is that an FSA or RaceFace chainset?It doesn't look like Ultegra?
It looks pretty good for an 11 year old bike.They were around £2k new so if everything is OK then when all said and done the frameset is a Litespeed 8)
Do litespeed make their own carbon frames?
Does anyone actually manufacture their own carbon frames.
They brand them as their own but they will probably be made in the far east.The website still states that their Titanium bikes are handmade in Chatanooga but that doesn't mean the Titanium is sourced from the USA either.
The answer is yes, Giant and Trek make carbon frames. Is it too much to hope that my point that saying "when all said and done the frame is a litespeed" is a little funny hasn't entirely escaped your notice?

Ten-Tech are supposed to be the best OEM for Carbon frames but unfortunately the industry likes to keep things opaque so no idea who makes the frames for litespeed but I'm sure some (other) geek on some forum knows.
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alexnharvey wrote: 7 Apr 2022, 3:25pm
PedallingSquares wrote: 6 Apr 2022, 10:31am Does anyone actually manufacture their own carbon frames.
The answer is yes, Giant and Trek make carbon frames. Is it too much to hope that my point that saying "when all said and done the frame is a litespeed" is a little funny hasn't entirely escaped your notice?
Ten-Tech are supposed to be the best OEM for Carbon frames but unfortunately the industry likes to keep things opaque so no idea who makes the frames for litespeed but I'm sure some (other) geek on some forum knows.
My statement was just that,not a question but I see why there's confusion.The written word often comes across differently to the spoken version.
I know Giant make their own and probably also make frames/forks for others.It's well known that the Giant factory was also one of the largest producers of Alluminium frames for itself and many other brands so it makes sense they would also make carbon for others.
If you read the reviews of the above frame from time of release Litespeed state that the frame was made after 2 years of developement.Of course this could just be blurb but my 'when all's said and done it's a Litespeed' was based purely on the fact that Litespeed are not a massive player in the industry like Giant/Specialized/Trek/Cannondale etc.Their reputation has been built on the quality of their Titanium frames,which incidentally have used Carbon forks for many years,so I would naturally assume they would not try to pass off any old rubbish as one of their own whether Titanium or Carbon.
So whether it's their own or not Litespeed have put their name and reputation on it so it is a 'Litespeed' and I believe my statement is therefore valid and not funny in the slightest.
You are,of course,entitled to your own opinion on the matter!
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Admittedly I am a pedant but 'does anyone make their own carbon frames' is always a question in our language, quite possibly you intended it to be a rhetorical one.
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Re: Good deal? Litespeed Archon C3

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PedallingSquares wrote: 6 Apr 2022, 10:31am
alexnharvey wrote: 6 Apr 2022, 8:57am
PedallingSquares wrote: 4 Apr 2022, 4:01pm Hard to tell from the photos but is that an FSA or RaceFace chainset?It doesn't look like Ultegra?
It looks pretty good for an 11 year old bike.They were around £2k new so if everything is OK then when all said and done the frameset is a Litespeed 8)
Do litespeed make their own carbon frames?
Does anyone actually manufacture their own carbon frames.
They brand them as their own but they will probably be made in the far east.The website still states that their Titanium bikes are handmade in Chatanooga but that doesn't mean the Titanium is sourced from the USA either.
Look make their own high end carbon frames in Tunisia. They are some of the best.
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