148mph

[Jdsk]

Still blaming the tool not tool driving it.

If that's a response to my comment:

1 I'm much more interested in reducing harm than blaming anyone.
2 An intervention that works doesn't have to inhibit the implementation of other interventions that also work.

Jonathan

[reohn2]

Still blaming the tool not tool driving it.

But effective policing and punisments that fit the crime would exclude both from our roads

[mattheus]

So - remind me... why do we sell cars that'll do over double the so-called speed-limit? (see here)

The good news is that eScooters are banned or limited to slower than bicycles.

[peetee]

Still blaming the tool not tool driving it.

Agreed. My car, a humble VW Polo, is capable of 120mph. It can do this because the dynamics of the engine allow long gearing and extremely economical motion at motorway speeds. It’s top speed is totally irrelevant to me.
There are plenty of videos on YouTube of inexperienced drivers loosing control of supercars at road-legal speeds so I would argue that mandatory advanced driving certificates for the owners would be more appropriate.

[Jdsk]

Still blaming the tool not tool driving it.

Agreed. My car, a humble VW Polo, is capable of 120mph. It can do this because the dynamics of the engine allow long gearing and extremely economical motion at motorway speeds. It’s top speed is totally irrelevant to me.

Would you mind if it was technologically limited to 70 mph?

Thanks

Jonathan

[reohn2]

Still blaming the tool not tool driving it.

Agreed. My car, a humble VW Polo, is capable of 120mph. It can do this because the dynamics of the engine allow long gearing and extremely economical motion at motorway speeds. It’s top speed is totally irrelevant to me.

Are you sure it's capable of 120mph,rather than anything VW say or equating tacho to indicated speed comparisons?

There are plenty of videos on YouTube of inexperienced drivers loosing control of supercars at road-legal speeds so I would argue that mandatory advanced driving certificates for the owners would be more appropriate.

That's a case of too much power in the hands of people who can't handle it.
It's the same with some people who drive large SUVs who can't handle their size or gauge their width on narrow roads or tight spaces,etc.
In short these people are totally lacking in ability.
How many football players doe hear of crashing their super sports cars?

[simonineaston]

As speed (or more correctly, wind resistance) is a power sapper for batteries in 'leccy cars, I understand that some incorporate control mechanisms to moderate high speeds - although ironically, the primary purpose is not safety, but rather, power conservation...

[mattheus]

As speed (or more correctly, wind resistance) is a power sapper for batteries in 'leccy cars, I understand that some incorporate control mechanisms to moderate high speeds - although ironically, the primary purpose is not safety, but rather, power conservation...

With great power comes great responsibility!

[peetee]

Would you mind if it was technologically limited to 70 mph?

Thanks

Jonathan

Not in the slightest. I rarely exceed 60mph on major roads. The less fuel I use, the better.

[Jdsk]

Thanks

Jonathan

[peetee]

Are you sure it's capable of 120mph,rather than anything VW say or equating tacho to indicated speed comparisons?

120, 110 or 100. Whatever the manufacturers state it is still way in excess of the law and just as irrelevant. My point was to show that that the dynamics of the vehicle are academic and should be put behind the importance of the abilities and attitude of the driver and the roads and conditions they experience. It’s well within the capability of technology to restrict driving speeds but ultimately is down to trust in drivers to do the right thing in every situation. After all, many trains are capable of 150mph and you don’t see the driver of the 12:45 to Temple Meads leave Paddington spinning the wheels and trying to get past the 12:44 local before West Drayton.

[Maillot Rouge]

Why does the UK still have lower motorway speed limits than many EU countries?70mph/112kph seems too low.81mph/120kph seems to be a reasonable speed.
The question was asked why make cars that can do double or treble the UK limit,it’s because there is a demand there.
I certainly would not buy a motorcycle that was restricted to 70mph(UK) or 120kph(EU),my motorcycle will do almost 90mph/144kph in 1st gear and is restricted to 189mph/304kph.That is what I paid for!

[thirdcrank]

I've just found this table by the AA on speed limits in Europe ie not exactly the EU. It's not easy to be sure of comparing like with like and limits are set at round numbers but I think it appears that

• In built-up areas 50 kph ie 31 mph seems to be the norm

• Motorway limits vary, but are typically higher than the UK but not universally so

• Only Belgium appears to have a limit higher than the UK for non-motorway roads outside built-up areas.

https://www.theaa.ie/aa/motoring-advice ... imits.aspx

[reohn2]

Are you sure it's capable of 120mph,rather than anything VW say or equating tacho to indicated speed comparisons?

120, 110 or 100. Whatever the manufacturers state it is still way in excess of the law and just as irrelevant. My point was to show that that the dynamics of the vehicle are academic and should be put behind the importance of the abilities and attitude of the driver and the roads and conditions they experience. It’s well within the capability of technology to restrict driving speeds but ultimately is down to trust in drivers to do the right thing in every situation. After all, many trains are capable of 150mph and you don’t see the driver of the 12:45 to Temple Meads leave Paddington spinning the wheels and trying to get past the 12:44 local before West Drayton.

Take your point,mine was that the 120mph was a possible selling point by VW.

TBH a little over the limit can be helpful but in the hands of loonies anything's possible at whatever speed.

[reohn2]

Why does the UK still have lower motorway speed limits than many EU countries?70mph/112kph seems too low.81mph/120kph seems to be a reasonable speed.

IMO because most UK motorways are so overloaded with traffic 60mph would be enough and as has been proven lowering the speed limit increases traffic flow.

The question was asked why make cars that can do double or treble the UK limit,it’s because there is a demand there

There's a demand for tobacco and A class drugs but it's not a healthy one.

I certainly would not buy a motorcycle that was restricted to 70mph(UK) or 120kph(EU)

Whilst you may not,it may come as a surprise but one of the best selling motorcycles in the UK presently, the Royal Enfield 350 Meteor and Classic will barely scrape past 70mph.

my motorcycle will do almost 90mph/144kph in 1st gear and is restricted to 189mph/304kph.That is what I paid for!

Where do you expect to be using it's full performance potential on UK roads?