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[ANTONISH]

I can remember in the 70's during the fuel crisis Germany imposed speed limits on it's ( previously non limited )motorways - there was a measurable reduction in accidents. The government considered keeping he limits after the crisis but there was great resistance from the petrol - heads.

Going further back I can remember travelling on the speedy German motorways in the sixties - that is they were speedy until the next idiot had an accident (maybe there was more than one idiot per accident) - then there were long tailbacks until we got past the usually spectacular crash site.

I'm all in favour of lowering the motorway speed limit to sixty.

[mattheus]

Germany probably makes more cars capable of 135+mph than any other country (certainly in the EU). There would be strong pressure to maintain the unlimited sections!

[thirdcrank]

I really do think that the national motorway speed limit is the one most likely to be effectively reduced ie by increased camera enforcement.

As I posted at the time, I thought that last year's thematic inspection of roads policing was a thinly-veiled power grab by National Highways.

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I think that overall speed reduction is the only way for National Highways to maintain/increase traffic capacity without a significant and expensive programme of motorway widening and also to reduce pollution. A probable side-effect would be a reduction in collisions, although I'm cynical enough to believe that the highwaymen are only bothered about crashes to the extent that the cause hold-ups.

I suspect that current high fuel prices may help with the acceptability of a general reduction in motorway speed limits

[Maillot Rouge]

my motorcycle will do almost 90mph/144kph in 1st gear and is restricted to 189mph/304kph.That is what I paid for!

Where do you expect to be using it's full performance potential on UK roads?

The same places that I and 1000s of British motorcyclists do week in week out all over the UK.I’m not implying that I or anyone else will do 190mph every day/week/month but I would be willing to gamble most with a motorcycle capable will do it,or get close to it just to see if their machine really will.The rest of the time you can still use the machine to its potential without going much over 100mph and still have a good time.I ride with guys 20/25 years older than me who are showing no signs of slowing down.You just have to be sensible about where and when you do it.
Doing 100mph+ on a motorway is just plain stupid and any idiot can do it but it is just asking for trouble.

[ossie]

Where do you expect to be using it's full performance potential on UK roads?

My BMW does 155 mph and 0-60 in under 5 seconds. I can do the latter legally on UK roads and the 155mph either on the Autobahn or any UK 'track' of which there are many. I'm not sure it's a prerequisite to buying a car that you must always use it on UK 'roads'.

[reohn2]

Where do you expect to be using it's full performance potential on UK roads?

My BMW does 155 mph and 0-60 in under 5 seconds. I can do the latter legally on UK roads and the 155mph either on the Autobahn or any UK 'track' of which there are many. I'm not sure it's a prerequisite to buying a car that you must always use it on UK 'roads'.

But that's not the question I asked,which is in the quote of my post!

[reohn2]

my motorcycle will do almost 90mph/144kph in 1st gear and is restricted to 189mph/304kph.That is what I paid for!

Where do you expect to be using it's full performance potential on UK roads?

The same places that I and 1000s of British motorcyclists do week in week out all over the UK.I’m not implying that I or anyone else will do 190mph every day/week/month but I would be willing to gamble most with a motorcycle capable will do it,or get close to it just to see if their machine really will.The rest of the time you can still use the machine to its potential without going much over 100mph and still have a good time.I ride with guys 20/25 years older than me who are showing no signs of slowing down.You just have to be sensible about where and when you do it.

You don't say exactly where you do do it?

Doing 100mph+ on a motorway is just plain stupid and any idiot can do it but it is just asking for trouble.

I'm glad we agree on that,but there still are some really stupid motorcyclist and motorists on UK roads willing to do just that.
I use the motorways a lot in my 20,000miles per annum in my car and on my motorcycles and I've been passed quite a few times by motorists well in excess of 100mph on motorways with middling traffic flow!

[ossie]

Where do you expect to be using it's full performance potential on UK roads?

My BMW does 155 mph and 0-60 in under 5 seconds. I can do the latter legally on UK roads and the 155mph either on the Autobahn or any UK 'track' of which there are many. I'm not sure it's a prerequisite to buying a car that you must always use it on UK 'roads'.

But that's not the question I asked,which is in the quote of my post!

My point is in my quote I'm not sure it's a prerequisite to buying a car that you must always use it on UK 'roads' (Likewise motorcycles)

I could be in Germany in a matter of hours where I could choose to use that performance, or on a track up the road. Many people buy these cars to use at circuits such as the Nürburgring, motorcycles the Isle of Man etc.

[reohn2]

My BMW does 155 mph and 0-60 in under 5 seconds. I can do the latter legally on UK roads and the 155mph either on the Autobahn or any UK 'track' of which there are many. I'm not sure it's a prerequisite to buying a car that you must always use it on UK 'roads'.

But that's not the question I asked,which is in the quote of my post!

My point is in my quote I'm not sure it's a prerequisite to buying a car that you must always use it on UK 'roads' (Likewise motorcycles)

I could be in Germany in a matter of hours where I could choose to use that performance, or on a track up the road. Many people buy these cars to use at circuits such as the Nürburgring, motorcycles the Isle of Man etc.

You're not getting this are you?
My question to Maillot Rouge was where could he use his motorcycle's performance to it's full potential in the UK not in Germany!

[ossie]

But that's not the question I asked,which is in the quote of my post!

My point is in my quote I'm not sure it's a prerequisite to buying a car that you must always use it on UK 'roads' (Likewise motorcycles)

I could be in Germany in a matter of hours where I could choose to use that performance, or on a track up the road. Many people buy these cars to use at circuits such as the Nürburgring, motorcycles the Isle of Man etc.

You're not getting this are you?
My question to Maillot Rouge was where could he use his motorcycle's performance to it's full potential in the UK not in Germany!

I do get it and he / she answered it as far as I can see The same places that I and 1000s of British motorcyclists do week in week out all over the UK - you can also add car owners into that equation which was the original post. Perhaps you're unaware of these 'outlets' to utilise performance, notwithstanding the thousands who go abroad.

[reohn2]

My point is in my quote I'm not sure it's a prerequisite to buying a car that you must always use it on UK 'roads' (Likewise motorcycles)

I could be in Germany in a matter of hours where I could choose to use that performance, or on a track up the road. Many people buy these cars to use at circuits such as the Nürburgring, motorcycles the Isle of Man etc.

You're not getting this are you?
My question to Maillot Rouge was where could he use his motorcycle's performance to it's full potential in the UK not in Germany!

I do get it and he / she answered it as far as I can see The same places that I and 1000s of British motorcyclists do week in week out all over the UK - you can also add car owners into that equation which was the original post. Perhaps you're unaware of these 'outlets' to utilise performance, notwithstanding the thousands who go abroad.

No he didn't say where,as you don't,that's why I asked for confirmation.

[ossie]

You're not getting this are you?
My question to Maillot Rouge was where could he use his motorcycle's performance to it's full potential in the UK not in Germany!

I do get it and he / she answered it as far as I can see The same places that I and 1000s of British motorcyclists do week in week out all over the UK - you can also add car owners into that equation which was the original post. Perhaps you're unaware of these 'outlets' to utilise performance, notwithstanding the thousands who go abroad.

No he didn't say where,as you don't,that's why I asked for confirmation.

I'm sure I mentioned 'tracks' further up the thread in relation to the UK. Track days are very popular for folk with high performance cars or motorcycles so there's your answer.

Here it is

I can do the latter legally on UK roads and the 155mph either on the Autobahn or any UK 'track' of which there are many.

You can also utilise 'full potential' on UK roads in relation to acceleration, legally.

[reohn2]

I do get it and he / she answered it as far as I can see The same places that I and 1000s of British motorcyclists do week in week out all over the UK - you can also add car owners into that equation which was the original post. Perhaps you're unaware of these 'outlets' to utilise performance, notwithstanding the thousands who go abroad.

No he didn't say where,as you don't,that's why I asked for confirmation.

I'm sure I mentioned 'tracks' further up the thread in relation to the UK. Track days are very popular for folk with high performance cars or motorcycles so there's your answer.

Here it is

I can do the latter legally on UK roads and the 155mph either on the Autobahn or any UK 'track' of which there are many.

You can also utilise 'full potential' on UK roads in relation to acceleration, legally.

You did mention it,but Maillot Rouge didn't,that's why I asked him and before you mentioned tracks,that is something you seem to be missing.
Is there something you find wrong with me asking him for confirmantion?

The acceleration figure is as you say perfectly legal in the right circumstances and conditions.

[ossie]

No he didn't say where,as you don't,that's why I asked for confirmation.

I'm sure I mentioned 'tracks' further up the thread in relation to the UK. Track days are very popular for folk with high performance cars or motorcycles so there's your answer.

Here it is

I can do the latter legally on UK roads and the 155mph either on the Autobahn or any UK 'track' of which there are many.

You can also utilise 'full potential' on UK roads in relation to acceleration, legally.

You did mention it,but Maillot Rouge didn't,that's why I asked him,that is something you seem to be missing.
Is there something you find wrong with me asking him for confirmantion?

The acceleration figure is as you say perfectly legal in the right circumstances and conditions.

I'm not sure I'm the first person on a thread to interject and answer a point directed towards another, who may simply log off for whatever reason...or do we leave it hanging like the sword of damocles, almost damning in its own silence, when in fact the answer is readily available. Happy to help.

[cycle tramp]

So - remind me... why do we sell cars that'll do over double the so-called speed-limit? (see here)

...possibly because you can't get your w***y extended on the nhs and the 'grow it big' cream doesn't work....

....probably because the cars appeal to those with some sort of inferiority complex... sort of 'look at me I've got a really fast car, I might not be able to meet my own gaze when I look in the mirror and I make decisions in my life I hate... and when I look into my soul there's a wide yawning empty void but hey, my car goes faster than yours and that's what makes me a better person....'