Yes. AIUI the Chancellor is claiming this morning that this wasn't deliberate but that they couldn't work out how to avoid it in practice with the current systems...
Jonathan
Well, let's think - which is more awkward - high bills and financial difficulty - or no planet to live on? Crikey that's a toughy - give me a while to think that one through, will you...better insulation but a solution to massive bills is needed now,
It is also immediate, and when your child or anyone else you care for is cold and or hungry now thoughts of the future are a luxury that others enjoy. Sometimes pain in the immediacy of this instant in time has to be experienced to be understood.francovendee wrote: ↑27 May 2022, 11:55am Hunger and cold is more than awkward to many of the poorest.
I could easily afford cavity insulation, but the reason I've never done it is that CIGA have a well-earned reputation for not honouring the guarantee. Energy savings pale at the side of the potential cost of any remedial work, so it just isn't worth the risk.francovendee wrote: ↑27 May 2022, 10:35amWhat about the government paying for all homes to be insulated regardless of their occupant.
The relevant difference with climate change is rate of change, not magnitude, the slower rate of change makes it easier to procrastinate with climate change, even if the ultimate consequences are greater. As I said above, I don't think climate change will ever get fixed, because it will always be tomorrow's problem, and not today's. Credit crunch, Brexit, Covid, Ukraine, Food prices, there's always something....simonineaston wrote: ↑27 May 2022, 10:42amWell, let's think - which is more awkward - high bills and financial difficulty - or no planet to live on? Crikey that's a toughy - give me a while to think that one through, will you...better insulation but a solution to massive bills is needed now,
Really? Have you any evidence for that statement? It's generally dealers who make profit from finance deals and, of course, the financial services businesses behind the loans, not the motor industry. I'm guessing you'll approve of that though because most of the finance houses will be British.simonineaston wrote: ↑27 May 2022, 9:32am It's deeply deeply depressing that whereas the fuel crisis should have been an ideal opportunity to put in place a policy of building insulation across the country, as a double fix (to both the short term and the long term crisis), it hasn't even been mentioned...and people wonder why I am pessimistic about whether or not we'll survive.well now you mention it, it's best to recall that the vehicle industry makes profits, not from the vehicles, but from the finance deals that buy them... As DT said in All The President's Men, follow the money...Using your and Simon's logic the entire British car industry is "syphoning" money out the country, it's all owned by those despicable "foreigners".
When I had cavity wall insulation it took the form of a sort of very light non combustible cotton fibre, harmless I believed. I would draw the line at isocynurate foam though. Wrongly installed that could burst the wall and it burns producing cyanide gas.axel_knutt wrote: ↑27 May 2022, 1:01pmI could easily afford cavity insulation, but the reason I've never done it is that CIGA have a well-earned reputation for not honouring the guarantee. Energy savings pale at the side of the potential cost of any remedial work, so it just isn't worth the risk.francovendee wrote: ↑27 May 2022, 10:35amWhat about the government paying for all homes to be insulated regardless of their occupant.
I suffer no illusions as who sold off the country's assets
I know the problem,I was agreeing with Simonineaston and mentioning that New Labour were as bad as the Tories in that regard,how many times do I need to explain that fact to you? .See my post above. It's privatisation that's the problem not ownership
But New Labour did nothing about it,that's my point!Do you think the companies would behave any differently if owned by a UK private equity business? The point is once a business is traded on the stock market it's exposed to takeover bids.
I think we're in agreement on that,though I know nothing about the price of firewood as I don't use it:?Pebble wrote: ↑27 May 2022, 9:59amOr is it the strange global cartel/monopoly with oil and gas prices? Production of oil and gas has not become more expensive so why has Norway (along with other produces) decided they need to charge the new higher prices? Simple, its greed they are going to go to the highest bidder. Bung all the cash in the bank and blame it all on some global price setting structure they have no control over.reohn2 wrote: ↑25 May 2022, 12:18pmNo,it's the energy companies choosing to make a fast buck by raising their prices by 50%+ whilst doubling their profits in the six month the war in the Ukraine has been waged that despot Putin,hellbent on total destruction of a neighbouring sovereign nation!
Nowt like a war for making money now is there?
Heck. even the price of firewood is rocketing, apparently its related to oil prices! (absolutely no shortage of the stuff since arwin) but its up 50% or more. Any excuse to make more money.
By first selling off national assets(Tories) and allowing it to continue(New Labour)pete75 wrote: ↑27 May 2022, 9:32amEncouraged? In what way?reohn2 wrote: ↑27 May 2022, 8:29amIt was encouraged under a (New) Labour government.pete75 wrote: ↑27 May 2022, 7:40am
It was also allowed under the Tories. See my post above. It's privatisation that's the problem not ownership. Do you think the companies would behave any differently if owned by a UK private equity business? The point is once a business is traded on the stock market it's exposed to takeover bids.
As Simon also posted money was allowed to be syphoned off out of the country,which could have been stopped under a (New) Labour government but wasn't!
I found out PDQ after 1997 what (New) Labour meant,they were Tories in red ties and sharp suits!
That was my point.
How can a government stop shares being bought and sold on the stock exchange?
I'm using the logic of the "free market",where anyone can buy and sell anything,P&O sacking it's workers and employing cheap as chips foreign workers with no checks and balances?Using your and Simon's logic the entire British car industry is "syphoning" money out the country, it's all owned by those despicable "foreigners".
I couldn't agree more,especially in areas were locals can't afford to live!