Food poverty-the way out

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Carlton green wrote: 19 May 2022, 7:01pm ...
IMHO GDP is the wrong measure of a country’s success and we should be looking towards other measures such as happiness and the provision of services. Services do cost money but if everyone is on a lower wage then vast amounts of money are not spent and if people aren’t chasing high cost homes and high cost vehicles there’s a lot more money left for them to enjoy living on which would include providing acceptable levels of healthcare, social care, education and policing.
The answer is that we need to increase productivity and wealth creation if we want world-class public services.

But I totally agree about the importance of measuring and publishing studies of happiness and quality of services.
World Happiness Report, 2023:
https://worldhappiness.report
And the World Values Survey has just been published. Which take us from happiness to trust.
https://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/wvs.jsp
which includes:

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Guardian coverage:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... oll-brexit

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Jdsk wrote: 30 Mar 2023, 11:40am
The answer is that we need to increase productivity and wealth creation if we want world-class public services.

But I totally agree about the importance of measuring and publishing studies of happiness and quality of services.
World Happiness Report, 2023:
https://worldhappiness.report
And the World Values Survey has just been published. Which take us from happiness to trust.
https://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/wvs.jsp
which includes:


Screenshot 2023-03-30 at 11.38.01.png

Guardian coverage:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... oll-brexit

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Jdsk wrote: 30 Mar 2023, 11:40am
The answer is that we need to increase productivity and wealth creation if we want world-class public services.

But I totally agree about the importance of measuring and publishing studies of happiness and quality of services.
World Happiness Report, 2023:
https://worldhappiness.report
And the World Values Survey has just been published. Which take us from happiness to trust.
https://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/wvs.jsp
which includes:


Screenshot 2023-03-30 at 11.38.01.png

Guardian coverage:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... oll-brexit

Jonathan
Can someone explain what this doing in the Food poverty-the way out thread, rather one of the many EU worship ones?
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Jdsk wrote: 24 Mar 2023, 4:32pm NB date.


The answer is that we need to increase productivity and wealth creation if we want world-class public services.

That was the Liz Truss theory. Worked out well didn't it.....
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"Healthy Start needs urgent improvement to tackle food insecurity in the early years":
https://www.foodfoundation.org.uk/publi ... arly-years
includes the latest uptake figures for the scheme, and possible reasons for why they aren't higher.

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New shopping prices comparison tool from the ONS:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/d ... index.html

"Price of cheddar, milk and eggs soars above UK headline inflation":
https://www.ft.com/content/ce8406ba-b10 ... pe=blocked

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Farming Today's lead headline was the cheery news that the proposed horticulture strategy that was to form a key part of the UK's post-EU farming has been cancelled...
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... but you can't make her think!

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853 wrote: 30 Mar 2023, 7:30pm Can someone explain what this doing in the Food poverty-the way out thread, rather one of the many EU worship ones?
Your comments reveal your political allegiance; depressing. This debate is here because we are looking at the consequences of desperately poor governance in The UK versus the rather better handling of the economy in most EU nations. It is a much considered phenomenon that the British vote for the Conservatives despite the appalling record they trail in their time in power. After the second world war it was the same: we won the war but lost the peace through dreadful Governance under the Tories, when they had power. Consider Britain since 2010: how could anyone think it would be worth voting for anything other than radical change right now? It is Tory policy -starting in 1979 (and quietly before) - to create an underclass of the poor who will take anything, and so attract inward investment. It turns out that even the low paid need to have a decent education and skills, so industry pushed off to Europe where these things were to be found (and cost more). Tony Blair talked of the "flexible labour market" which was code for desperate, poor people. His criticism of the European way of things was rather spoilt by the comparative fortunes of Europe and The UK. Employment in the developed world follows education and skills training. Something successive Governments in The UK have not understood. So now we have an underclass who have to rely on foodbanks. That is why these comments are here.
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plitrot
So very well put,other countries burrowed cheap money and invested in their countries whilst the Tories lauched their great austerity plan which never ever worked,just made people poorer.
One only need look at the exponential growth in foodbanks since 2010 for proof!
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...and speaking as one who works at a food share project, the situtation appears to be steadily getting more difficult. The number of groups that want to subscribe is increasing at the same time as the quantity of food available is diminshing.
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simonineaston wrote: 4 May 2023, 9:40am Farming Today's lead headline was the cheery news that the proposed horticulture strategy that was to form a key part of the UK's post-EU farming has been cancelled...
The Ministerial statement:
https://questions-statements.parliament ... -26/182809

Farmers Weekly: "Ditching of English horticulture strategy ‘beggars belief’":
https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/ditching-of- ... ars-belief

Sustain:
https://www.sustainweb.org/news/may23-d ... -strategy/

But I'm sure that there'll be another Minister along soon...

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In the local council elections for Leeds City Council being held today, the Conservative Party candidate in Morley North is called Dom Eatwell

I'm in two minds about posting a link but here goes

https://www.leeds.gov.uk/your-council/e ... -elections
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thirdcrank wrote: 4 May 2023, 5:37pm In the local council elections for Leeds City Council being held today, the Conservative Party candidate in Morley North is called Dom Eatwell
I've found his manifesto:

Eatwell 2016.JPG
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Competition and Markets Authority to investigate competition in groceries:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/cma- ... -pressures

"UK government urged to act as some meat and veg prices double in a year":
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ishi-sunak

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