the best way to fix my Ortlieb panniers?

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Re: the best way to fix my Ortlieb panniers?

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I’ve used Gorilla glue which, sparingly applied, sticks most things. It may be a bit rigid if the area you mention has to flex Contact adhesive, like Evo Stick, mentioned earlier is good too but make sure you allow it to become tack dry before pressing the surfaces together.
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Yacht chandlers sell two types of glue for repairing the two materials used in rubber dinghies.
I have sucessfully repaired inflatable boat rollers, and affixed attachment tabs to turn them into fenders.
The quantity is much more than you would need for a small repair.

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leftpoole wrote: 15 Jun 2022, 10:42am Don't be a mean cyclist! Buy new ones. Help keep cycling businesses stay open.
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I'm not mean, i just don't have nigh on £100 for replacements and i'm sure the bags have a lot of life left in them - if i can get some sort of repair sorted.
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Any conclusions on the materials, please?

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Jdsk wrote: 14 Jun 2022, 4:29pm What are the materials that need to be stuck together?

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Jonathan
Sorry i was away using my spare bags at York Rally until last night!

Materials are PVC coated Polyester & OVC coated cordura high frequency welded together.

The reason that Ortlieb can't do a welded repair is that the materials need to be 100% clean to get a satisfactory result. The reason for my querstion is that it seems impossible to currently source the Ortlieb repair kit which i have used with great success in the past.
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Thanks

I'd try something like this on a small test area. Maybe a 20 mm run not at the end of the whole intended contact area.

Clean and lightly abrade the contact area
Clean and degrease with isopropyl alcohol
Apply contact adhesive to both surfaces following instructions including the waiting
Clamp together

Let us know if they stuck...

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Stormsure Flexible Repair adhesive. I've used this on a torn wax jacket and a plastic saddle cover, a tough, flexible, very grippy and waterproof adhesive, it's possibly similar to the Aquasure that Norman H recommended upthread, manufacturers link describes it in detail.
https://www.stormsure.com/stormsure-adhesives
Plenty of stockists on ebay, e.g.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182869981122 ... Sw-OVgdG7Y
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will watch the thread with interest - I too have a fair lot of Ortlieb stuff.
No you aren't being remotely mean in trying to keep your Ortliebs going foxy - Ortlieb themselves would quite possibly congratulate you - unlike many manufacturers these days they still sell spares of bits. I have a pair of near quarter of a century rear bikepacker panniers that eventually drove me nuts with the hook inserts popping out. But I was able to buy clip-in 2.1 hooks which sorted the problem.
They will now probably see me out, despite heavy use.
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For repairs of this sort I always use Stormsure. It sticks to virtually everything and forms an incredibley tough flexible join. I have used on shoes where there is constant wetting & flexing & it just holds. Takes a while to cure properly though.

Pretty cheap too. A 5ml tube will be more than enough & only a few quid. Keep any remaining, tube wrapped in foil, in the freezer & it will keep for ages.

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re Stormsure, Id' never heard of it 'till just now. Have added it to my notebook, just in case :-)
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now thats a useful resource! I have all sorts of gear that could do with some tlc and theres a shop near me too.

might try the Stormsure first
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foxyrider wrote: 24 Jun 2022, 3:48pm
leftpoole wrote: 15 Jun 2022, 10:42am Don't be a mean cyclist! Buy new ones. Help keep cycling businesses stay open.
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I'm not mean, i just don't have nigh on £100 for replacements and i'm sure the bags have a lot of life left in them - if i can get some sort of repair sorted.
I always wish that I could show my smile when making comments! :D
However my experience shows, that on this forum there are a vast number of mean minded, individuals who make money from buying and selling parts purchased from people here. I hate it. It gives the whole forum a bad taste. I have actually met members who having bought something from me very cheaply have behind my back, taken other items (theft). Some forum sales have resulted in the sale that I made of a cycle for a pretty decent low price because the purchaser pleaded poverty, being discussed by said purchaser on another forum. The purchaser bragging about how he purchased for virtually nothing! Telling all that the seller (me) didn't have a clue as to value. Not trusting anyone on here anymore...
It gives me the feeling that there are many mean minded cyclists. Sorry -- you are not one of them.
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leftpoole wrote: 27 Jun 2022, 12:30pm
foxyrider wrote: 24 Jun 2022, 3:48pm
leftpoole wrote: 15 Jun 2022, 10:42am Don't be a mean cyclist! Buy new ones. Help keep cycling businesses stay open.
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I'm not mean, i just don't have nigh on £100 for replacements and i'm sure the bags have a lot of life left in them - if i can get some sort of repair sorted.
I always wish that I could show my smile when making comments! :D
i think to be honest I'd save the pixels and just reread your comments before posting.
There is nothing humourous in that post - no wit/satirical point.

so naturally it reads as serious.

(guilty as charged - have kept a pair of spesh shoes going (though have a newer equivelent pair) by glueing a rear sole back on and darning holes in bits of the mesh on the front of both shoes). Used for round-town shopping duties - may now see me out.
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