Shimano 105 R7100 groupset, 12-speed, Di2 and disc only

[nomm]

https://road.cc/content/tech-news/shima ... set-293985

[keyboardmonkey]

It’s because they hate us, nomm.

[roubaixtuesday]

Any chance of stopping the clickbait thread titles?

[PedallingSquares]

Why not?

[Aikon]

GRX suits me fine

[Dingdong]

Any chance of stopping the clickbait thread titles?

I very much doubt it ..

[Mike_Ayling]

When you have most of the market you can do what you like.

I will stick with my Rohloff!

[peetee]

Perhaps Shimano are expecting Tiagra to fill the space left by mechanical 105. Or, more likely, pandemic-related issues have reduced the production capacity and the company has concentrated on a new, flagship groupset launch to the detriment of a ‘old tech’ product. Raising the bar for 105 wouldn’t be a bad call seeing as Ultegra and Dura-Ace have both been tarnished by the worry of crankset failure.
But then again, did the writer of the article get their facts right? Is mechanical being dropped altogether or is the story specifically about no mechanical/disc brake combination for the 7100 group.

[Jupestar]

Like clockwork!

The next iteration of Shimano mech groupsets will surely be 12s. so i'm sure to maximise income the strategy is to bring your top of the range max upgrade 12s first. Dura Ace Di2, came first, then Ultegra Di2, now 105 Di2.

I'd expect to see 12s mech groupsets for Dura Ace, then Ultegra and then 105 in the next few years...

Then we start it all over again with the next big upgrade 13s Dura Ace Di2. or maybe a curveball and its back to 3x8 ..

When Apple upgrade Iphone from X to X+1. they make it max impact. then spend the next 1/2 years bring out X + 0.25 and X + 0.75.. for those they couldn't tempt with X+1. Until the next big reveal.... X+2!

[Jupestar]

To put it another way - no way would Shimano bring out a 12s 105 mech groupset before they brought out the Dura Ace and Ultegra ones.

And presumably there is no point upgrading these at 11s.

[thelawnet]

Like clockwork!

The next iteration of Shimano mech groupsets will surely be 12s. so i'm sure to maximise income the strategy is to bring your top of the range max upgrade 12s first. Dura Ace Di2, came first, then Ultegra Di2, now 105 Di2.

I'd expect to see 12s mech groupsets for Dura Ace, then Ultegra and then 105 in the next few years...

Then we start it all over again with the next big upgrade 13s Dura Ace Di2. or maybe a curveball and its back to 3x8 ..

When Apple upgrade Iphone from X to X+1. they make it max impact. then spend the next 1/2 years bring out X + 0.25 and X + 0.75.. for those they couldn't tempt with X+1. Until the next big reveal.... X+2!

I don't think so. They sell 12s hydraulic electric, and then everything below that is just recycled 11 speed stuff. Tiagra is currently 10 speed, and runs on the same ratios as 11 speed, so they will just bring Tiagra to 11 speed mechanical, Sora to 10 speed and Claris to 9 speed.

There is no need for 12 speed mechanical, since 12 speed has no real advantage in the first place - the goal is to add £1000 or more on the price of these bikes by making 105 electric + hydraulic. Next step is to make the electric gubbins obsolete in a few years, it's a win win for them. The market for people who MUST have 12 speeds rather than 11 but don't want all the latest tech isnt really there, and they figure post-covid that they can charge far more for bikes.

[scottg]

GRX suits me fine

Geriatric Road Xtension

105 Di2 is aimed at the OEM market, Trekalized and Canyon will sell'em by the container load.
Pay no attention to the 2kg wheel sets, look at the battery shifters.

New 105 bikes are all disc, rim brakes are now for fancy bikes and commuters.

[TrevA]

I like how 105 Di2 is supposed to be a budget groupset and yet it’s over £1700! You can buy a complete bike with 105 11 speed mechanical for less than that.

[PedallingSquares]

I like how 105 Di2 is supposed to be a budget groupset and yet it’s over £1700! You can buy a complete bike with 105 11 speed mechanical for less than that.

It depends on what your perception of budget is

[pwa]

I like how 105 Di2 is supposed to be a budget groupset and yet it’s over £1700! You can buy a complete bike with 105 11 speed mechanical for less than that.

It is serious money. I can only suppose that Shimano are pitching 105 further up-market than they have in the past.