Tax Cuts Anybody

[reohn2]

Love those Tories ...

[Psamathe]

I saw a short bit of the ITV one and a good review of it at https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/tv ... sonalities

Good line summed-up Ms Badenoch

Kemi Badenoch would admit that she does, after all, “believe” in climate change (Kemi, dear, it is not the tooth fairy, and we are not your children);

Ian

[pete75]

I saw a short bit of the ITV one and a good review of it at https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/tv ... sonalities

Good line summed-up Ms Badenoch

Kemi Badenoch would admit that she does, after all, “believe” in climate change (Kemi, dear, it is not the tooth fairy, and we are not your children);

Ian

Maybe she change her name from Badenough to Worst.

[Jdsk]

Disappointing so far that non of the hopefuls have mentioned the environment.

tbf, I think they have - albiet in the form of the catch phrase 'The net zero plan', and has been couched in terms of 'no plan to divert from'.
But it goes without saying that that approach would be described by even the most relaxed climate activists as woefully inadequate.

at least 4 of the 5 hopefuls say they will stick with net zero for 2050, sadly Badenoch seems to want to kick it into the long grass, I doubt wildlife and the environment would stand a chance under her.

"The big shock of the day was Kemi Badenoch, the former equalities minister, firmly, for the first time, committing to the UKs climate commitments and saying she would not row back on net zero. She previously disparaged the target, causing alarm among green Tories."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... 0fe85d2f04

What next... Mordaunt renouncing homeopathy?

Jonathan

[reohn2]

I saw a short bit of the ITV one and a good review of it at https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/tv ... sonalities

Good line summed-up Ms Badenoch

Kemi Badenoch would admit that she does, after all, “believe” in climate change (Kemi, dear, it is not the tooth fairy, and we are not your children);

Ian

Maybe she change her name from Badenough to Worst.

I thought Johnson beat her to it!

[reohn2]

What next... Mordaunt renouncing homeopathy?

I didn't know she was so far into la,la,land!
Oh dear,what a shame,never mind!
Sing Lofty......
(must be read with a Winsor Davies voice)

She previously disparaged the target, causing alarm among green Tories."[/i].....

Why do you whisper green grass,
Why tell the trees what ain't so,
Whispering grass,don't tell the trees
For the trees don't want to know....

[Psamathe]

tbf, I think they have - albiet in the form of the catch phrase 'The net zero plan', and has been couched in terms of 'no plan to divert from'.
But it goes without saying that that approach would be described by even the most relaxed climate activists as woefully inadequate.

at least 4 of the 5 hopefuls say they will stick with net zero for 2050, sadly Badenoch seems to want to kick it into the long grass, I doubt wildlife and the environment would stand a chance under her.

"The big shock of the day was Kemi Badenoch, the former equalities minister, firmly, for the first time, committing to the UKs climate commitments and saying she would not row back on net zero. She previously disparaged the target, causing alarm among green Tories."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... 0fe85d2f04
...

I wouldn't get too excited as she'll undoubtedly be changing her mind later this evening (or maybe tomorrow or maybe back again tomorrow ...)

Ian

[pete75]

at least 4 of the 5 hopefuls say they will stick with net zero for 2050, sadly Badenoch seems to want to kick it into the long grass, I doubt wildlife and the environment would stand a chance under her.

"The big shock of the day was Kemi Badenoch, the former equalities minister, firmly, for the first time, committing to the UKs climate commitments and saying she would not row back on net zero. She previously disparaged the target, causing alarm among green Tories."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... 0fe85d2f04
...

I wouldn't get too excited as she'll undoubtedly be changing her mind later this evening (or maybe tomorrow or maybe back again tomorrow ...)

Ian

They've stopped the live discussions. Originally started so people could get to know the candidates but now stopped so people are don't get to know what they're like.

[Psamathe]

"The big shock of the day was Kemi Badenoch, the former equalities minister, firmly, for the first time, committing to the UKs climate commitments and saying she would not row back on net zero. She previously disparaged the target, causing alarm among green Tories."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... 0fe85d2f04
...

I wouldn't get too excited as she'll undoubtedly be changing her mind later this evening (or maybe tomorrow or maybe back again tomorrow ...)

Ian

They've stopped the live discussions. Originally started so people could get to know the candidates but now stopped so people are don't get to know what they're like.

If the Tory senior management don't like the way they've been going, switch format to a paddling pool full of mud and candidates in swimwear and at least give us a good laugh (plus candidates and party would not lose as much credibility as with the old format).

Ian

[Jdsk]

at least 4 of the 5 hopefuls say they will stick with net zero for 2050, sadly Badenoch seems to want to kick it into the long grass, I doubt wildlife and the environment would stand a chance under her.

"The big shock of the day was Kemi Badenoch, the former equalities minister, firmly, for the first time, committing to the UKs climate commitments and saying she would not row back on net zero. She previously disparaged the target, causing alarm among green Tories."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... 0fe85d2f04
...

I wouldn't get too excited as she'll undoubtedly be changing her mind later this evening (or maybe tomorrow or maybe back again tomorrow ...)

"Kemi Badenoch moves away from net zero by 2050, in double climate U-turn":
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ate-u-turn

Flip. Flop.

Good call.

Jonathan

[Psamathe]

"The big shock of the day was Kemi Badenoch, the former equalities minister, firmly, for the first time, committing to the UKs climate commitments and saying she would not row back on net zero. She previously disparaged the target, causing alarm among green Tories."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... 0fe85d2f04
...

I wouldn't get too excited as she'll undoubtedly be changing her mind later this evening (or maybe tomorrow or maybe back again tomorrow ...)

"Kemi Badenoch moves away from net zero by 2050, in double climate U-turn":
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ate-u-turn

Flip. Flop.

Good call.

Jonathan

And she wants to be PM? Can't hold a policy for more than a few hours!

Ian

[Cugel]

I wouldn't get too excited as she'll undoubtedly be changing her mind later this evening (or maybe tomorrow or maybe back again tomorrow ...)

"Kemi Badenoch moves away from net zero by 2050, in double climate U-turn":
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ate-u-turn

Flip. Flop.

Good call.

Jonathan

And she wants to be PM? Can't hold a policy for more than a few hours!

Ian

The New Model PM doesn't need to hold any opinion, view, policy, notion or other coherent mind-state for more than the time taken to say it, badly and with plenty of dogmatic gurn, gesture, stance, posture and braggadocio, before then saying something completely contradictory and equally stupid, ad nauseam. The point of being a PM is now to do what you like at any particular instant whilst demanding unwavering loyalty, praise and sycophancy of the most grovelling kind from fellow performers and the members of the audience, even when they've been soaked in klown-ordure from the waste-policy bucket.

For details see The Chief Klown Bokum and his familiar Nadzi.

Mind, such PMs risk their audience becoming bored with their tedious and oft-repeated antic.

https://www.newstatesman.com/long-reads ... -the-clown

"The final moments of the clown combined a kind of diminishing demonic purposelessness with a gigantic morbidity. At the last, “Boris” stood alone, berating a vanishing audience for their ingratitude and shouting betrayal at the low rag-and-bone sky".

Cugel, sick & tired of The Circus and its depraved Spectacles.

[Psamathe]

"The big shock of the day was Kemi Badenoch, the former equalities minister, firmly, for the first time, committing to the UKs climate commitments and saying she would not row back on net zero. She previously disparaged the target, causing alarm among green Tories."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... 0fe85d2f04
...

I wouldn't get too excited as she'll undoubtedly be changing her mind later this evening (or maybe tomorrow or maybe back again tomorrow ...)

"Kemi Badenoch moves away from net zero by 2050, in double climate U-turn":
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ate-u-turn

Flip. Flop.

Good call.

Jonathan

Didn't help her though. I expect Ms Truss will be pleased as she'll be expecting to pick up lots of Ms Kemi's votes next round.

Ian

[reohn2]

......Cugel, sick & tired of The Circus and its depraved Spectacles.

Seconded!
By an equally sick(in a bucket) & tired(yawn)voter,to the point of sheer hatred for these self centred monsters from another world,who term themselves "potential leaders" but who couldn't organise the proverbial in a brewery save the ability to fill their own pockets!
The same people who for the past two and have years have been nodding dogs to big dog Johnson as he,like his two predecessors continued to trash my country before with the electorate's approval!

It's a truly sickening spectacle to watch,what other countries think of the UK one can only imagine......

[Cugel]

......Cugel, sick & tired of The Circus and its depraved Spectacles.

Seconded!
By an equally sick(in a bucket) & tired(yawn)voter,to the point of sheer hatred for these self centred monsters from another world,who term themselves "potential leaders" but who couldn't organise the proverbial in a brewery save the ability to fill their own pockets!
The same people who for the past two and have years have been nodding dogs to big dog Johnson as he,like his two predecessors continued to trash my country before with the electorate's approval!

It's a truly sickening spectacle to watch,what other countries think of the UK one can only imagine......

There will be many around the world who are having the full schadenfreude, recalling our past history and those events involving various thieving and violent predations by the British state and its agents (commercial & military) upon their country and its denizens. It's hard to blame them, despite such feelings being of no real use in repairing the long tail of the various damages Britain has wrought over the whole globe in the past few centuries.

The current Tory shenanigans is nothing new, really, in the history of "our" country. What was new was the Attlee governments' temporary installation of what many of us Boomers think of as set of good institutions, laws and norms defining a good country for lucky citizens. That short period is the anomaly in British political and cultural history, not the current antics. See C16th - C21st British history for details.

But I may just be feeling over sensitive, being a spoilt Boomer softlad. Pal will be along shortly to list all of the wonderful achievements of Great Britain over the years, especially on behalf of all those lucky persons who begin at Calais.

Cugel