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Er, no.foxyrider wrote: ↑9 Aug 2022, 9:46pmIf you are doing less than 10mph it is quite legal to cross a solid white to overtake if it is safe to do so.
In theory the following vehicle should wait until their speed has dropped to 10mph before attempting said manouver but in the real world 99% don't abide by that or the if it is safe to do so bit.
how do you assess if the cyclist you are about to overtake is below 10mph unless you have also dropped your speed to around that level.DaveReading wrote: ↑9 Aug 2022, 11:41pmEr, no.foxyrider wrote: ↑9 Aug 2022, 9:46pmIf you are doing less than 10mph it is quite legal to cross a solid white to overtake if it is safe to do so.
In theory the following vehicle should wait until their speed has dropped to 10mph before attempting said manouver but in the real world 99% don't abide by that or the if it is safe to do so bit.
The 10 mph max refers to the vehicle being overtaken, not the overtaker.
Well I can't speak for anyone else, but find using judgement and experience helps.Pebble wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 8:10amhow do you assess if the cyclist you are about to overtake is below 10mph unless you have also dropped your speed to around that level.DaveReading wrote: ↑9 Aug 2022, 11:41pmEr, no.foxyrider wrote: ↑9 Aug 2022, 9:46pmIf you are doing less than 10mph it is quite legal to cross a solid white to overtake if it is safe to do so.
In theory the following vehicle should wait until their speed has dropped to 10mph before attempting said manouver but in the real world 99% don't abide by that or the if it is safe to do so bit.
The 10 mph max refers to the vehicle being overtaken, not the overtaker.
Yes. I can't imagine that the authors intended anything else.DaveReading wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 8:50amWell I can't speak for anyone else, but find using judgement and experience helps.Pebble wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 8:10amhow do you assess if the cyclist you are about to overtake is below 10mph unless you have also dropped your speed to around that level.DaveReading wrote: ↑9 Aug 2022, 11:41pm Er, no.
The 10 mph max refers to the vehicle being overtaken, not the overtaker.
Maybe dropping your speed low enough that you can judge is a good idea?Pebble wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 8:10amhow do you assess if the cyclist you are about to overtake is below 10mph unless you have also dropped your speed to around that level.DaveReading wrote: ↑9 Aug 2022, 11:41pmEr, no.foxyrider wrote: ↑9 Aug 2022, 9:46pmIf you are doing less than 10mph it is quite legal to cross a solid white to overtake if it is safe to do so.
In theory the following vehicle should wait until their speed has dropped to 10mph before attempting said manouver but in the real world 99% don't abide by that or the if it is safe to do so bit.
The 10 mph max refers to the vehicle being overtaken, not the overtaker.
from my experience as a cyclist not many drivers are able to judge as well as may be they think they can.DaveReading wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 8:50amWell I can't speak for anyone else, but find using judgement and experience helps.Pebble wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 8:10amhow do you assess if the cyclist you are about to overtake is below 10mph unless you have also dropped your speed to around that level.DaveReading wrote: ↑9 Aug 2022, 11:41pm
Er, no.
The 10 mph max refers to the vehicle being overtaken, not the overtaker.
I guarantee not a single driver who overtakes you on a solid white line ever considers that 10mph part, they just see bike must overtake regardless.Pebble wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 1:03pmfrom my experience as a cyclist not many drivers are able to judge as well as may be they think they can.DaveReading wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 8:50amWell I can't speak for anyone else, but find using judgement and experience helps.
Done ---- sorry --- was still a bit cross from the incident and to be fair most drivers around this area are very courteous, though that's the second time this year ( viewtopic.php?t=146468&start=150#p1677153 ) I've had a problem and both times it was young women drivers they seem to be in a wile hurry these days.hoogerbooger wrote: ↑9 Aug 2022, 9:35pm (Cowsham: I realise your experience was scary and likely to generate fruity language in the moment....but could you consider editing your post)
What's your evidence for that?awavey wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 6:55pmI guarantee not a single driver who overtakes you on a solid white line ever considers that 10mph part, they just see bike must overtake regardless.Pebble wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 1:03pmfrom my experience as a cyclist not many drivers are able to judge as well as may be they think they can.DaveReading wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 8:50am
Well I can't speak for anyone else, but find using judgement and experience helps.
mine would be Id always expect driver to pause before an overtake in that situation to correctly judge the speed of the cyclist, but Ive never encountered any driver pausing in those situations, even when Ive been going down a hill hitting the speed limit, driver still overtakes. and Ive never met a driver who has ever said they only overtake if the cyclist is going less than 10mph, or who recognised that was even part of it, you speak to them, theyll swear blind they can overtake slow moving traffic, cyclists are slow, ergo they overtake.DaveReading wrote: ↑11 Aug 2022, 4:18pmWhat's your evidence for that?
Well I do, for a start, so that's enough to invalidate your "not a single driver" guarantee.awavey wrote: ↑13 Aug 2022, 1:33pmmine would be Id always expect driver to pause before an overtake in that situation to correctly judge the speed of the cyclist, but Ive never encountered any driver pausing in those situations, even when Ive been going down a hill hitting the speed limit, driver still overtakes. and Ive never met a driver who has ever said they only overtake if the cyclist is going less than 10mph, or who recognised that was even part of it, you speak to them, theyll swear blind they can overtake slow moving traffic, cyclists are slow, ergo they overtake.
YMMV though, so whats your evidence they do ?
