There's a breakfast pun available if needed...roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑29 Sep 2022, 3:40pmThe Conservative Party has been in Red Queen territory since the Brexit vote.
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Jonathan
There's a breakfast pun available if needed...roubaixtuesday wrote: ↑29 Sep 2022, 3:40pmThe Conservative Party has been in Red Queen territory since the Brexit vote.
They traffic them accross borders, hence the charity
FullFact today:Psamathe wrote: ↑29 Sep 2022, 12:55pm...
But also, Ms Truss was warned (in writing) yesterday about this by the Chief Executive of FullFact, so if she is still repeating misleading information (despite having been warned) then she is also at fault and needs to go public and apologise and correct her misleading information.
So I consider criticism of Ms Truss on this as quite right.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/sep/29/liz-truss-kwasi-kwarteng-mini-budget-sterling-crisis-economy-conservatives-uk-politics-live-updates?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-6335588d8f086841b84c4460#block-6335588d8f086841b84c4460 wrote:The fact checking organisation Full Fact has criticised Truss for misleading voters. Will Moy, the organisation’s chief executive, said:
We wrote to the prime minister about getting this wrong only yesterday. The government’s energy plans will affect every household in Britain this winter. And yet Liz Truss has repeatedly misled listeners this morning.
She must now publicly correct her mistake to make sure people are not misled about their energy prices and hit with unexpected and unaffordable energy bills this winter.
I've learned something today.
Yes, she ought to have learnt from the reprimand about the CNN interview not to forget the word "typical". From all those interviews you quoted earlier it looked like she had. I don't know if it's omission is incompetence or dishonesty, neither is good in a PM.Jdsk wrote: ↑29 Sep 2022, 3:52pm FullFact today:
"Liz Truss wrong to repeatedly say energy bills are capped at £2,500":
https://fullfact.org/economy/liz-truss- ... -cap-2500/
Jonathan
Or when they learn pensions will be cut.
Are there any fracking sites n conservative areas.
Is the answer Russia?
Quite a lot
orhttps://www.newstatesman.com/environment/climate/2022/09/mapped-uk-fracking-licences-tory-constituencies wrote:Mapped: UK fracking licences could impact one in four Tory constituencies
Ianhttps://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/fracking-ban-lifted-liz-truss-b2172783.html wrote:Some 143 constituencies, including so-called “red wall” areas in northern England and the Midlands, have licences which could potentially allow firms to examine gas or oil exploitation. Recent analysis shows that there are licences for onshore hydrocarbon production in 94 Tory-held seats.
Increasing domestic gas production will not lower the price of gas. Gas prices are set internationally and does anybody believe the fracking companies are going to sell their gas to UK much cheaper than they could internationally because it's extracted from the UK?
They tend to have an issue with the dark and a lack of wind and more of an issue that many people believe them unsightly, on shore wind farms are I think baned, miles and miles of solar panels don't look great either. I'm sure their are objectors to off shore farms as well. Nuclear get most people hot and botheredPsamathe wrote: ↑29 Sep 2022, 4:26pmIncreasing domestic gas production will not lower the price of gas. Gas prices are set internationally and does anybody believe the fracking companies are going to sell their gas to UK much cheaper than they could internationally because it's extracted from the UK?
If we want cheap energy and energy security then we are better off investing in renewables.
Ian
You have listed a narrow range. Arguments like wind power when the wind isn't blowing or solar power at night are historic - storage. And as you say, we are an island and thus we have a lot of coastline and we also have good reliable tides that flow at different times at different bits of the coast. Tidal power does not obscure views or anything so difficult to see why you'd get a large contingent objecting.jois wrote: ↑29 Sep 2022, 4:50pmThey tend to have an issue with the dark and a lack of wind and more of an issue that many people believe them unsightly, on shore wind farms are I think baned, miles and miles of solar panels don't look great either. I'm sure their are objectors to off shore farms as well. Nuclear get most people hot and botheredPsamathe wrote: ↑29 Sep 2022, 4:26pmIncreasing domestic gas production will not lower the price of gas. Gas prices are set internationally and does anybody believe the fracking companies are going to sell their gas to UK much cheaper than they could internationally because it's extracted from the UK?
If we want cheap energy and energy security then we are better off investing in renewables.
Ian
What ever the actual answer is both to energy security and price which are slightly different issues a large contingent will object, probably much the same contingent will complain about all of them in either general terms or NIMBY terms.
We are sat on a island of coal with it seems substantial gas reserved in the rock and more as yet untapped in the North sea, it seems some what ungreatful to the god of tectonic plates not to use some of it
NB oil is a renewable energy source, just saying
Psamathe wrote: ↑29 Sep 2022, 4:26pmIncreasing domestic gas production will not lower the price of gas. Gas prices are set internationally and does anybody believe the fracking companies are going to sell their gas to UK much cheaper than they could internationally because it's extracted from the UK?
If we want cheap energy and energy security then we are better off investing in renewables.
Ian