Are we all Trussed up...

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NATURAL ANKLING wrote: 25 Oct 2022, 11:46pm Hi,
Havent read all the posts.........none actually.

So what would a hung parliment acheive...................................

More chaos :evil:

Are we so sure that the fickle voting plebs will just go "A change is as good as a rest"..........."change for change's sake"....................
You might as well toss a coin................
My hope for a hung Parliament would be more compromise and stopping the more extreme edges of different parties implementing their radical/extreme ideologies.

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Jdsk wrote: 27 Oct 2022, 10:04am
Jdsk wrote: 25 Oct 2022, 10:16am "Why member ballots for party leaders threaten parliamentary democracy":
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/poli ... on-members
"Prime Ministers, Party Members, and the Efficient Secret":
https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2022/10 ... nt-secret/
And a polite and well-informed discussion about electoral systems:

"For and against changing the electoral system":
https://davidallengreen.com/2022/10/for ... al-system/

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The Institute of Economic Affairs on why it was nothing to do with us, GOV, honest:
https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/15 ... 3689913345
https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/status/1 ... 0262445061

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Jdsk wrote: 31 Oct 2022, 4:36pm And a polite and well-informed discussion about electoral systems:

"For and against changing the electoral system":
https://davidallengreen.com/2022/10/for ... al-system/
Hmm, polite but i do find it curious how DAG can write such poorly informed nonsense at times when he appears to know the value of research etc in his own specialisms. Sure it's only a blog and we're all guilty of that to an extent but here it really is just parroting out the fptp 'party lines' about PR that largely only concern large closed list PR systems that neither of the major campaign groups are advocating. Ie basically strawmen.

Both the Electoral Reform Society and Make Votes Matter promote STV (as used in both parts of Ireland, Scottish locals and, historically, university seats in Westminster) or MMS (Scottish parliament, Welsh & London assemblies) as their favoured systems with a slight preference for the former. Both keep constituency links, both have by elections and one has reduced list influence, the other none.

He has a similarly bizarre take on brexit, being adamant he preferred leaving but endlessly critiques everything that's happened since and has only ever been incredibly vague about the sort of brexit he'd want, describing it as a close association agreement. I.e. just a different set of unicorns.
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Stevek76 wrote: 1 Nov 2022, 10:34pm or MMS (Scottish parliament, Welsh & London assemblies)
I think you mean Welsh Parliament, or Senedd, which replaced the assembly in 2020.
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Ah interesting, I hadn't noticed the change.
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Ah the Truss thread. It's boring now! :lol:
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Good radio prog on R4, yesterday on "supply side "economics. Said Truss misunderstood the concept.
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Thanks for the heads-up. Can you remember the title or what time it was on, please?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl7j/2022/11/08

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Truss "painted over" Johnson's £840/roll wallpaper because it was peeling, says Hunt: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... wallpaper/
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mjr wrote: 25 Nov 2022, 10:53am Truss "painted over" Johnson's £840/roll wallpaper because it was peeling, says Hunt: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... wallpaper/
I'm surprised she had the time. Paint still wet when Sunak took over?

Still, I guess we are the ones paying for all this redecoration in Downing Street.

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Psamathe wrote: 25 Nov 2022, 11:13am
mjr wrote: 25 Nov 2022, 10:53am Truss "painted over" Johnson's £840/roll wallpaper because it was peeling, says Hunt: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... wallpaper/
I'm surprised she had the time. Paint still wet when Sunak took over?

Still, I guess we are the ones paying for all this redecoration in Downing Street.
Well, she wasn't allowed to do much else during national mourning (thank the goddesses). I wonder if she painted it black out of respect?

We're paying for it for 50 years, aren't we?
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Looks like the trade deal Ms Truss negotiated and declared her own brilliance over has not gone well after it's 1st year
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/26/brexit-britain-japan-trade-deal-exports-slump wrote:Brexit blow: exports to Japan slump after ‘landmark’ free trade deal
The first major free trade agreement signed by Britain after Brexit has been branded a failure after new figures showed exports had fallen since it came into force.

Liz Truss signed a “historic” deal with Japan as trade secretary in October 2020, describing it as a “landmark moment for Britain”. It was claimed it would boost trade by billions of pounds and help the UK recover from the pandemic.

However, figures collated by the Department for International Trade show exports to Japan fell from £12.3bn to £11.9bn in the year to June 2022. Exports in goods fell 4.9% to £6.1bn and services fell 2% to £5.8bn.

The decline is a significant setback for supporters of Brexit who claimed global trade with non-EU countries would help compensate for any losses from leaving the single market.
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Amazed on last night's news that Ms Truss apparently will be standing again next General Election. Even tioday more embarassing reports about her time in office
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/dec/06/mini-budget-an-international-embarrassment-says-natwest-boss wrote:Mini-budget an ‘international embarrassment’ says NatWest boss
The chairman of NatWest...
Davies, who has been chairman of the former Royal Bank of Scotland since 2015, said banking peers and regulators, including those at the European Commission, tried to comfort him the way colleagues would if you had an ill parent.

“It was a bit like that, [with] people coming in to say ‘I’m terribly sorry to hear about your economy and your government, I’m sure it’s not so bad’. And you say, ‘well actually, it probably is. Really – it’s about as bad as you think’.
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She must have such a thick skin or be so stupid she still doesn't appreciate what a disaster she was.

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