Are we all Trussed up...

[reohn2]

.......MP's hanging on to their seats is far more important rather than what they were elected to do.

Charles Walker MP interviewed yesterday about the shambles seemed more interested in Tory MPs affording their mortgage payments when they're ousted than anything

My French neighbours were at first bemused with the goings on but are now finding it extremely funny.

I went through the funny stage yesterday,but now I'm at the livid stage in the knowledge that these people a still plotting how to hanf on to power!

There is industrial unrest over wages and the cost of living but there aren't moves to ban these strikes. Strikes are part of life here

These fascists would have the ordinary wo/man on the street with no power of industrial action at at all.
The UK is becoming like a banana republic without the bananas!

[Debs]

He had little experince of anything else other than his hobbies of tree felling and rescuing fallen women.

The moral of the story; when you see him coming with an axe in his hands, it's no good hiding up a tree

[Psamathe]

Is this going to be the same format as the last leadership race? MPs get it down to two candidates then the tory faithful (conservatives version of momentum) choose which one.

They can get their act together and cut out the membership if they want to. All they have to do is get it down to two, then one drops out to leave an uncontested winner.

I think it depends on circumstances. If only 2 candidates get the 100+ nominations and one of those is Johnson I can't see Johnson standing down nor whoever the other is (as for the other to stand down will be handing Johnson the leadership/PM and "the other" be seen as responsible for the ensuing disaster Johnson will cause).

Ian

[Psamathe]

What is a surprise, or maybe it isn't, is that what should be a straightforward nominations, election, calm and collected process has yet again become a psychodrama centred on Johnson (again).

Ian

[roubaixtuesday]

What is a surprise, or maybe it isn't, is that what should be a straightforward nominations, election, calm and collected process has yet again become a psychodrama centred on Johnson (again).

Ian

Pitchforks and flaming torches time.

General Election now!

[pwa]

Is this going to be the same format as the last leadership race? MPs get it down to two candidates then the tory faithful (conservatives version of momentum) choose which one.

They can get their act together and cut out the membership if they want to. All they have to do is get it down to two, then one drops out to leave an uncontested winner.

I think it depends on circumstances. If only 2 candidates get the 100+ nominations and one of those is Johnson I can't see Johnson standing down nor whoever the other is (as for the other to stand down will be handing Johnson the leadership/PM and "the other" be seen as responsible for the ensuing disaster Johnson will cause).

Ian

Yes, in practice it would take one of the two run-off candidates to step aside. But on the subject of Bojo, if he gets into the final two he has almost certainly won. God help us.

[reohn2]

......General Election now!

If only,these creeps will hang on to power as long as humanly(sic) possible before a GE.
Party and power before country as per usual with the Tory party!

[Psamathe]

Just read a shocking report. Truss as an ex-PM is entitles to £115k per year payment from public purse! (supposedly for necessary office and secretarial costs arising from their special position in public life).

So she makes a brief appearance, trashes the economy, makes the UK an international laughing stock anf after he few weeks get £115k per year for life (on top of Gov. pensions, etc.).

Beggars belief.

Edit: Sorry, I omitted the source https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... parks-fury

Ian

[pwa]

Just read a shocking report. Truss as an ex-PM is entitles to £115k per year payment from public purse! (supposedly for necessary office and secretarial costs arising from their special position in public life).

So she makes a brief appearance, trashes the economy, makes the UK an international laughing stock anf after he few weeks get £115k per year for life (on top of Gov. pensions, etc.).

Beggars belief.

Edit: Sorry, I omitted the source https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... parks-fury

Ian

I looked at that and it isn't as bad as it sounds. It isn't for personal income. It is expenses, including paying staff and general office expenses, in relation to continued public service relating to the former role of PM. Receipts are needed for every penny of it. The figure given is the limit she might claim.

[simonineaston]

Thanks for that extra info., pwa.

[Psamathe]

Just read a shocking report. Truss as an ex-PM is entitles to £115k per year payment from public purse! (supposedly for necessary office and secretarial costs arising from their special position in public life).

So she makes a brief appearance, trashes the economy, makes the UK an international laughing stock anf after he few weeks get £115k per year for life (on top of Gov. pensions, etc.).

Beggars belief.

Edit: Sorry, I omitted the source https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... parks-fury

Ian

I looked at that and it isn't as bad as it sounds. It isn't for personal income. It is expenses, including paying staff and general office expenses, in relation to continued public service relating to the former role of PM. Receipts are needed for every penny of it. The figure given is the limit she might claim.

After her track record one would hope she no longer "remains active in public life" - having demonstrated how much damage she can do in such a short time. It's only for ex-PMs who remain active in public life. My take is that her remaining active in public life would be her choice and thus she bears the cost. She could chose not to remain active in public life.

Ian

[roubaixtuesday]

[Psamathe]

Understand some MPs have been privately talking (very informally) about ways to possibly kill off the privileges committee to stop it causing trouble for Boris Johnson

Some have suggested to me they are wondering whether they could ask House to vote on getting rid of the referral - saying if Tory part has reendorsed him it would be hard for MPs to vote against.

This is what our legislature has become!

Just a few months ago 57 of Johnson's Ministers resigned to force him out and now they are scheming to get him back. Will those 57 suddenly make-up and return to Ministerial posts?

Ian

[Tangled Metal]

Can I just point out that suella braverman didn't dream of sending asylum seekers to Rwanda but it was pritti Patel. Braverman is of course worse than Patel! That's some achievement of course even if not s good one.

[Psamathe]

Personal opinion: I think Sunak/Mordant will present Labour with far more of a challenge in 2 years/General Election. Were Johnson to re-take the leadership he may feel invulnerable and without restraint on lies, deception, law & rule breaking, basically Johnson plus plus plus which will help Labour next General Election.

So do we want to endure 2 years of Johnson for a better chsance of a Labour take-over in 2 years? (Not that 99.83% of us we have any choice in the matter).

Ian