IIRC standing charge paid for the companies like bulb which have gone bust, so it's increased. Could be wrong.853 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 7:23pmHere are my current rates; the night rate is almost a quarter that of the day rate. My fixed deal finished earlier in the year, and these are the figures for this area on the price cap
I have never seen the night rate as small a percentage as this before, (or should that be I've never seen the day rate as large a percentage as this). Strangely, my night rate - day rate ration has fluctuated considerably over the years from around 0.35:1.00 to around 0.50:1.00
Not happy about the standing charge; as a low user it's a significant percentage of my total bill.
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From that tarrif it looks like your night rate is about 46% of your day rate not 25%.853 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 7:23pmHere are my current rates; the night rate is almost a quarter that of the day rate. My fixed deal finished earlier in the year, and these are the figures for this area on the price cap
I have never seen the night rate as small a percentage as this before, (or should that be I've never seen the day rate as large a percentage as this). Strangely, my night rate - day rate ration has fluctuated considerably over the years from around 0.35:1.00 to around 0.50:1.00
Not happy about the standing charge; as a low user it's a significant percentage of my total bill.
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I thought this might interest.
Bethesda hydro scheme cuts electricity bills by 25%
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-63287373Energy bills are a worry right now, but people in one village are slashing their bills by using green technology.
Some residents in the Ogwen Valley, in Gwynedd, joined an energy club which uses a hydro-electric scheme.
As a result, they get electricity for 8p a unit at certain times of day - instead of 34p a unit.
A separate scheme sells excess power back to the grid, funding grants for local charities and fitting solar panels in the area.
The Ogwen Valley is one of several places in Wales with community energy projects.
As bills rise, residents said they appreciated it more than ever.
It's the same the whole world over
It's the poor what gets the blame
It's the rich what gets the pleasure
Isn't it a blooming shame?
It's the poor what gets the blame
It's the rich what gets the pleasure
Isn't it a blooming shame?
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From that tarrif it looks like your night rate is about 46% of your day rate not 25%.
11.6/45 = 0.26
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Having disclosed I'm currently paying 45.1p per unit for my day rate, I think it would add to the discussion if you did disclose your rates.Nearholmer wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 6:23pm I won’t quote the prices for fear of provoking widespread jealousy - I struck very lucky.
I'm not the jealous type, and have noted that you have said " I struck very lucky."
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24p day; 8p night.
There, I whispered it.
All that really adds to the discussion is nostalgia for the halcyon days of last September, when I found the tariff.
There, I whispered it.
All that really adds to the discussion is nostalgia for the halcyon days of last September, when I found the tariff.
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Thanks, I like your style. I guess this shows how good timing can be - when it works for you. (I fixed for a year in April 2021, but when it ended after 12 months there were no fixed deals worth taking)Nearholmer wrote: ↑20 Oct 2022, 5:06pm 24p day; 8p night.
There, I whispered it.
All that really adds to the discussion is nostalgia for the halcyon days of last September, when I found the tariff.
What about anyone else? I know the price cap prices vary around the country, so can anyone beat my 45.1p a unit?
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Environmental Audit Committee Chairman, 19th October 2022In its efforts to make the UK’s energy market more resilient, it is surprising that the Government appears to have overlooked the potential of geothermal energy. The Committee heard that geothermal energy could more than satisfy the UK’s current heating demand, a contribution which could result in a 20% saving on the UK’s current greenhouse gas emissions.
“This energy is beneath our feet and is ready to be explored to test its commercial viability. I expect Ministers will wish to reflect carefully on the evidence the Committee received and reconsider the potential role of geothermal energy in heating UK buildings and providing power while aiding the drive towards net zero emissions targets.
https://committees.parliament.uk/commit ... ting-need/
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https://www.reuters.com/business/energy ... 022-10-17/
Even the price has tumbled,
It doesn't sound as if there's a shortage of gas, just distribution difficulties.Earlier on Monday, China halted LNG sales to foreign buyers to ensure its own supply, which market players say might push more vessels to head to Asia
Even the price has tumbled,
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The Government hasn't overlooked this. Relevant publications on GOV.UK:Biospace wrote: ↑21 Oct 2022, 2:37pmEnvironmental Audit Committee Chairman, 19th October 2022In its efforts to make the UK’s energy market more resilient, it is surprising that the Government appears to have overlooked the potential of geothermal energy. The Committee heard that geothermal energy could more than satisfy the UK’s current heating demand, a contribution which could result in a 20% saving on the UK’s current greenhouse gas emissions.
“This energy is beneath our feet and is ready to be explored to test its commercial viability. I expect Ministers will wish to reflect carefully on the evidence the Committee received and reconsider the potential role of geothermal energy in heating UK buildings and providing power while aiding the drive towards net zero emissions targets.
https://committees.parliament.uk/commit ... ting-need/
https://www.gov.uk/search/all?keywords= ... ted-newest
And the 2013 report: "Deep Geothermal Review Study":
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... _Final.pdf
They should certainly reconsider the economic case.
Jonathan
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Perhaps Mr Dunne believed that Rees-Mogg needed this bringing to his attention? It's possible he was using the word in a fairly loaded way, as in "you should know all about this so why no recent mention given the crisis?"Jdsk wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 12:28pmThe Government hasn't overlooked this. Relevant publications on GOV.UK:Biospace wrote: ↑21 Oct 2022, 2:37pmEnvironmental Audit Committee Chairman, 19th October 2022In its efforts to make the UK’s energy market more resilient, it is surprising that the Government appears to have overlooked the potential of geothermal energy. The Committee heard that geothermal energy could more than satisfy the UK’s current heating demand, a contribution which could result in a 20% saving on the UK’s current greenhouse gas emissions.
“This energy is beneath our feet and is ready to be explored to test its commercial viability. I expect Ministers will wish to reflect carefully on the evidence the Committee received and reconsider the potential role of geothermal energy in heating UK buildings and providing power while aiding the drive towards net zero emissions targets.
https://committees.parliament.uk/commit ... ting-need/
https://www.gov.uk/search/all?keywords= ... ted-newest
And the 2013 report: "Deep Geothermal Review Study":
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... _Final.pdf
They should certainly reconsider the economic case.
Jonathan
The economics of energy are changing, let's see how Sunak and his ministers treat this whole subject.
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Yes x2.Biospace wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 1:09pmPerhaps Mr Dunne believed that Rees-Mogg needed this bringing to his attention? It's possible he was using the word in a fairly loaded way, as in "you should know all about this so why no recent mention given the crisis?"Jdsk wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 12:28pmThe Government hasn't overlooked this. Relevant publications on GOV.UK:Biospace wrote: ↑21 Oct 2022, 2:37pm
Environmental Audit Committee Chairman, 19th October 2022
https://committees.parliament.uk/commit ... ting-need/
https://www.gov.uk/search/all?keywords= ... ted-newest
And the 2013 report: "Deep Geothermal Review Study":
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... _Final.pdf
They should certainly reconsider the economic case.
The economics of energy are changing, let's see how Sunak and his ministers treat this whole subject.
Using energy policy for dog-whistling might just have been temporary... or at least to that extent.
Jonathan
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Listening to Money Box on R4 the other day, and a lady (ex science teacher) worked out how much she can save on her lecky bill by turning off her automatic electric kettle manually as soon as it reached 100degC. It was surprising how much lecky was used for those ten seconds added up to over a year.
Now, I'm no scientist, and I see her point, but she as an ex science teacher should know that water only boils at 100degC as sea-level.
We live at about 250ft, and people up the hill at 750ft.
If we lived in Princetown up on Dartmoor we would be at 1,400ft.
Found the calculator site.
Interesting eh?
https://www.omnicalculator.com/chemistr ... t-altitude
Water boils in Princetown at 98.62degC ................ and that doesn't include barometric pressure variations!
Now, I'm no scientist, and I see her point, but she as an ex science teacher should know that water only boils at 100degC as sea-level.
We live at about 250ft, and people up the hill at 750ft.
If we lived in Princetown up on Dartmoor we would be at 1,400ft.
Found the calculator site.
Interesting eh?
https://www.omnicalculator.com/chemistr ... t-altitude
Water boils in Princetown at 98.62degC ................ and that doesn't include barometric pressure variations!
Mick F. Cornwall
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When we moved here there was a Quooker boiling water tap already installed. We dont have a kettle. In addition to hot drinks its useful for preheating cooking water for veg, pasta and rice. As you only use what you dispense and they claim the constant preheating costs pennies per day I wonder if the Quooker is saving us money?
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