UK energy

[PDQ Mobile]

Ps.
Your link says 30% overall so you too are factually wrong.
And also states nuclear provides around 50% of the overall base load.
My figures (77%)for France which exports large quantities to the UK and elsewhere are real time correct.
France was what I stated.
From Gridwatch

[Jdsk]

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Your link says 30% overall so you too are factually wrong.
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What is 30% of what, please?

Thanks

Jonathan

[roubaixtuesday]

Ps.
Your link says 30% overall so you too are factually wrong.
And also states nuclear provides around 50% of the overall base load.
My figures (77%)for France which exports large quantities to the UK and elsewhere are real time correct.
France was what I stated.
From Gridwatch

re emboldened, I'm afraid you're wrong again.

From my link

In 2022 in the EU 42% of electricity was fossil fuels and biomass, 22% from nuclear, 22% from wind and solar, and 10% from hydro.

I think you have misinterpreted the following sentence, have a more careful read of it.

nuclear is a proven source of low-carbon, dispatchable electricity giving a high degree of energy security and provides 40% of the EU’s carbon-free electricity

I know the 77% was accurate, but you made a very significant omission - that it is a huge outlier compared to the rest of the EU which was what the original post was about. This was in your post criticising others for omissions!

[roubaixtuesday]

And of course, I didn't just rely on one source but checked a couple of others...

In 2022, 39.4% of electricity was generated from renewable energy sources, 38.7% from fossil fuels and 21.9% from nuclear power. Fossil fuels in detail: Gas:19.6%

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/info ... d-and-sold

Nuclear plants are the main source of electricity in the European Union, accounting for approximately 619 terawatt-hours in 2023, around 20 percent of the power produced that year

https://www.statista.com/statistics/800 ... n-by-fuel/

We all make mistakes, but it's simple and quick to check in most cases.

[PDQ Mobile]

And of course, I didn't just rely on one source but checked a couple of others...

In 2022, 39.4% of electricity was generated from renewable energy sources, 38.7% from fossil fuels and 21.9% from nuclear power. Fossil fuels in detail: Gas:19.6%

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/info ... d-and-sold

Nuclear plants are the main source of electricity in the European Union, accounting for approximately 619 terawatt-hours in 2023, around 20 percent of the power produced that year

https://www.statista.com/statistics/800 ... n-by-fuel/

We all make mistakes, but it's simple and quick to check in most cases.

Forgive slow response( was taxiing a minor surgery patient).
As chance would have it within sight of white horses filled bay full of whirling wind turbines.
Grid watch says UK 29% from wind as I post.
It's good, I am very happy about it, though it's expensive (to me) and intermittent.
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A recent flyer to home from Scottish Power states their mix as:-
39% gas
14% Nuclear
41% renewable - which I guess includes Drax etc
3% coal
3% other fuels.
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YOUR quoted article states:-
"Although nuclear is a proven source of low-carbon, dispatchable electricity giving a high degree of energy security and provides 40% of the EU’s carbon-free electricity...."

So it would seem Scot Power is above EU par.

I clearly stated 77% (and rising later on)was a French figure.

The omission earlier as I see it is to totally ignore the nuclear issue with it's major downside.
A greenwashing.

[roubaixtuesday]

And of course, I didn't just rely on one source but checked a couple of others...

In 2022, 39.4% of electricity was generated from renewable energy sources, 38.7% from fossil fuels and 21.9% from nuclear power. Fossil fuels in detail: Gas:19.6%

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/info ... d-and-sold

Nuclear plants are the main source of electricity in the European Union, accounting for approximately 619 terawatt-hours in 2023, around 20 percent of the power produced that year

https://www.statista.com/statistics/800 ... n-by-fuel/

We all make mistakes, but it's simple and quick to check in most cases.

Forgive slow response( was taxiing a minor surgery patient).
As chance would have it within sight of white horses filled bay full of whirling wind turbines.
Grid watch says UK 29% from wind as I post.
It's good, I am very happy about it, though it's expensive (to me) and intermittent.
......
A recent flyer to home from Scottish Power states their mix as:-
39% gas
14% Nuclear
41% renewable - which I guess includes Drax etc
3% coal
3% other fuels.
...........
YOUR quoted article states:-
"Although nuclear is a proven source of low-carbon, dispatchable electricity giving a high degree of energy security and provides 40% of the EU’s carbon-free electricity...."

So it would seem Scot Power is above EU par.

I clearly stated 77% (and rising later on)was a French figure.

The omission earlier as I see it is to totally ignore the nuclear issue with it's major downside.
A greenwashing.

I don't agree re greenwashing; nuclear is very low carbon.

[rjb]

This is how the UK electricity was generated in the last 12 months taken from the iamkate grid watch site. It shows how renewables now surpass fossil fuel generation and ever increasing as new generation is connected. What is noticeable is how much we import via interconnectors from Europe. ( Shown as transfers) Touch the screenshot to enlarge it to read.

[PDQ Mobile]

Roubaix..
Below is a screen shot of my Scottish Power fuel source breakdown with the tariff structures.
Overall they use gas for 59% of their generation which rises to a proportion of 73% (!) for those on a non-"green" tariff.
7% from coal still.

Nuclear, your "low carbon" fuel, is much higher in Europe (40% overall as shown in your own linked document and quoted above) than in the UK.
A mere 1% of the Scot Power (my supplier) total in the UK.

So not great as a "low carbon" solution in the UK and not great as a waste problem.

Maybe Scot Power not typical but they ARE my supplier of 2.3 kwhs a day!

[Jdsk]

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Nuclear, your "low carbon" fuel, is much higher in Europe (40% overall as shown in your own linked document and quoted above) than in the UK.
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What's the meaning of Europe there?

And please could you point to that figure in the document.

Thanks

Jonathan

[PDQ Mobile]

It's in this section.

And says this.

It's Roubaix's link.
https://world-nuclear.org/information-l ... pean-union

[Jdsk]

Thanks

That says: "nuclear... 40% of the EU's carbon-free electricity". Not 40% of the electricity.

Jonathan

[PDQ Mobile]

Thanks

That says: "nuclear... 40% of the EU's carbon-free electricity". Not 40% of the electricity.

Jonathan

And that is what my above post says.
If you can make sense of my leccy suppliers breakdown, be my guest.

[roubaixtuesday]

Roubaix..
Below is a screen shot of my Scottish Power fuel source breakdown with the tariff structures.
Overall they use gas for 59% of their generation which rises to a proportion of 73% (!) for those on a non-"green" tariff.
7% from coal still.

Nuclear, your "low carbon" fuel, is much higher in Europe (40% overall as shown in your own linked document and quoted above) than in the UK.
A mere 1% of the Scot Power (my supplier) total in the UK.

So not great as a "low carbon" solution in the UK and not great as a waste problem.

Maybe Scot Power not typical but they ARE my supplier of 2.3 kwhs a day!

5D29D18C-C4D7-4CF9-9B1C-68D167A98948.jpeg

Re "low carbon" - nuclear is low carbon.

There's no need to put it in quotation marks.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life-cy ... gy_sources


And what jdsk said re the 40%. I did try to point that out yesterday, and gave you no less than three different sources of the 22%, but here we are.

[Jdsk]

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Nuclear, your "low carbon" fuel, is much higher in Europe (40% overall as shown in your own linked document and quoted above) than in the UK.
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Is this comparison between the EU and the UK about nuclear generation as a fraction of all electricity or about nuclear generation as a fraction of "carbon-free electricity"?

Thanks

Jonathan

Edited: Crossed with previous post.

[roubaixtuesday]

Roubaix..
Below is a screen shot of my Scottish Power fuel source breakdown with the tariff structures.
Overall they use gas for 59% of their generation which rises to a proportion of 73% (!) for those on a non-"green" tariff.
7% from coal still.

Nuclear, your "low carbon" fuel, is much higher in Europe (40% overall as shown in your own linked document and quoted above) than in the UK.
A mere 1% of the Scot Power (my supplier) total in the UK.

So not great as a "low carbon" solution in the UK and not great as a waste problem.

Maybe Scot Power not typical but they ARE my supplier of 2.3 kwhs a day!

5D29D18C-C4D7-4CF9-9B1C-68D167A98948.jpeg

Surely the conclusion is the opposite; that nuclear is a great low carbon option, and Scotland should have more of it!