High BMI how to approach the subject?

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Psamathe
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Re: High BMI how to approach the subject?

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I'd have thought that (as for anything active), if the instructor has concerns about any individual and does not have the qualifications and experience to make an assessment then the concerns should be raised up "the chain of command" to get appropriate knowledge/training/skills to make a proper assesment.

I don't do any type of coaching so don't know what medical skills instructors are expected to have, but any safety concern (medical or non-medical) should require a decision from somebody appropriately qualified.

Ian
mattsccm
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Re: High BMI how to approach the subject?

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You should be doing all you can to point out that this child is probably unhealthy.
As we, in education , are taught better to flag something up for no reason than to miss a problem. Why do we pussy foot around trying to protect people from themselves? Oh yeahj, because we can't upset them. Cobblers
Jdsk
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Psamathe wrote: 25 Oct 2022, 11:54am I'd have thought that (as for anything active), if the instructor has concerns about any individual and does not have the qualifications and experience to make an assessment then the concerns should be raised up "the chain of command" to get appropriate knowledge/training/skills to make a proper assesment.

I don't do any type of coaching so don't know what medical skills instructors are expected to have, but any safety concern (medical or non-medical) should require a decision from somebody appropriately qualified.
Yes x2. In this case notify the headteacher of any concerns.

Jonathan
Carlton green
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Re: High BMI how to approach the subject?

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mattsccm wrote: 13 Nov 2022, 9:29pm You should be doing all you can to point out that this child is probably unhealthy.
As we, in education , are taught better to flag something up for no reason than to miss a problem. Why do we pussy foot around trying to protect people from themselves? Oh yeahj, because we can't upset them. Cobblers
H’mm, that’s an interesting stance. “Better to flag up something for no reason than to miss a problem”, surely that’s simplistic drivel put in place by people whose main concern is covering their own bottom. Flagging stuff up uses limited resources and can cause a lot of misery to others, the person making the complaint really needs to think carefully about specific need(s), consequences, ability to judge, and weight of evidence before lighting the blue touch paper.

Pussy footing around other people, if I ever met some of my old school teachers I sure as hell wouldn’t pussy foot around them. Some I might embarrass with praise - giants amongst their peers - but others would be told in no uncertain terms what twats they were and certainly not fit to be in charge of young people … it might not be the case now (though I suspect that it still is) but some people in education - and other public service roles too - really shouldn’t be there, but we pussy foot around them.
Don’t fret, it’s OK to: ride a simple old bike; ride slowly, walk, rest and admire the view; ride off-road; ride in your raincoat; ride by yourself; ride in the dark; and ride one hundred yards or one hundred miles. Your bike and your choices to suit you.
Jdsk
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Re: High BMI how to approach the subject?

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Carlton green wrote: 13 Nov 2022, 10:26pm ...
“Better to flag up something for no reason than to miss a problem”, surely that’s simplistic drivel put in place by people whose main concern is covering their own bottom. Flagging stuff up uses limited resources and can cause a lot of misery to others, the person making the complaint really needs to think carefully about specific need(s), consequences, ability to judge, and weight of evidence before lighting the blue touch paper.
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Yes. And, as discussed upthread, lots of people individually telling the child that they're obese is likely to make the child feel rotten and unlikely to have any practical benefit. Making sure that they get access to professional help will reduce the chance that the problem is missed and is much more likely to have some beneficial effect.

Jonathan
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