High BMI how to approach the subject?

[Philip Benstead]

If a trainee had a high BMI and they were struggling riding
on the flat, would you suggest they need to reduce their BMI?

If no, how would you suggest they get fitter, the trainee is teenager.

[simonineaston]

Gosh - that's a hot potato, for sure...

[Jdsk]

The BMI is a quick and convenient measure. And has well-known limitations.

I'd need a lot more information than that to recommend anything at all.

Jonathan

[jois]

If a trainee had a high BMI and they were struggling riding
on the flat, would you suggest they need to reduce their BMI?

If no, how would you suggest they get fitter, the trainee is teenager.

It's chicken and egg, shifting an excessive body weight along may not make them fast, but it is increasing their fitness, as their fitness increases so their body fat will drop or at least not matter as much

If it's actually border line impossible for them and they are putting undue strain on their heart,, then forget cycling and do some walking instead, for the time being

It can be a long process, there is no actual point trying to go faster than is reasonable for your body to adapt and it can do you harm

[Nearholmer]

How about approaching it tangentially, through a discussion of power/weight ratio in sports cycling, thereby bypassing mass, to concentrate on power?

[PH]

Leave it to the professionals, at best try and find out the local services you can refer to or recommend.
Stick to the cycling, make sure the bike is up to the task as you would with anyone else, discourage them from overdoing it, again as you should with anyone else. Just be encouraging, as I'm sure you already are, obese people can cycle fine, they just need to do so within their capabilities.

[Carlton green]

If a trainee had a high BMI and they were struggling riding
on the flat, would you suggest they need to reduce their BMI?

If no, how would you suggest they get fitter, the trainee is teenager.

Changing BMI is a process that takes years and as such there are no quick fixes to suit you, your trainee or your timescale. If you are concerned that your trainee isn’t fit enough to cycle (under your training) then decline to teach them until they have seen a GP - who must support then them cycling. Other than that it’s take things slowly and let them see that if they are able to lower their BMI then their life - and their cycling - will improve.

People struggling on bikes need low gears and to understand how to use them.

The NHS has a website section covering exercise duration and intensity levels, perhaps you could investigate that.
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/

[Jdsk]

We don't know the subject's BMI, whether they are obese, their medical history including their cardiovascular history, their cardiovascular family history, other risk factors, their exercise history, their diet...

Jonathan

PS: Yes, the NHS advice is an excellent starting point.

[Philip Benstead]

The trainee was on school course and was age 12 years.. They were the only one struggling.

A pe teacher suggested that there was too many pupils in the school that had high BMI, due to eating too much rice and curry.

[jois]

The trainee was on school course and was age 12 years.. They were the only one struggling.

A pe teacher suggested that there was too many pupils in the school that had high BMI, due to eating too much rice and curry.

I doubt rice and curry is the root cause of the issue

[Jdsk]

The trainee was on school course and was age 12 years.. They were the only one struggling.

Does your training protocol for 12 year olds involve measurement of BMI?

And if so does it have a procedure for what actions to take for children with a high BMI?

Thanks

Jonathan

[Philip Benstead]

The trainee was on school course and was age 12 years.. They were the only one struggling.

Does your training protocol for 12 year olds involve measurement of BMI?

And if so does it have a procedure for what actions to take for children with a high BMI?

Thanks

Jonathan

No and no.

You did not need to be a doctor, the boy was very over weight.

[Jdsk]

The trainee was on school course and was age 12 years.. They were the only one struggling.

Does your training protocol for 12 year olds involve measurement of BMI?

And if so does it have a procedure for what actions to take for children with a high BMI?

No and no.

You did not need to be a doctor, the boy was very over weight.

Do you know his BMI (as suggested in the original post) or only that he is very overweight?

Was this a training course that has now finished or do you have an ongoing relationship and responsibility?

Thanks

Jonathan

[Philip Benstead]

Does your training protocol for 12 year olds involve measurement of BMI?

And if so does it have a procedure for what actions to take for children with a high BMI?

No and no.

You did not need to be a doctor, the boy was very over weight.

Do you know his BMI (as suggested in the original post) or only that he is very overweight?

Was this a training course that has now finished or do you have an ongoing relationship and responsibility?

Thanks

Jonathan

Finished but I will be back in the school soon. No responsibility, the PC teach in is aware but the school is walking eggshells to avoid causing offence.

I was just curious as too the views of others.

[Jdsk]

No and no.

You did not need to be a doctor, the boy was very over weight.

Do you know his BMI (as suggested in the original post) or only that he is very overweight?

Was this a training course that has now finished or do you have an ongoing relationship and responsibility?

Finished but I will be back in the school soon. No responsibility, the PC teach in is aware but the school is walking eggshells to avoid causing offence.

I was just curious as too the views of others.

If you have concerns about his health you should notify them to a responsible person. If in any doubt tell the headteacher. Subsequent "offence" or anything else are irrelevant to what you should do.

I would consider encouraging exercise including cycling to be within the reasonable scope of a cycle training course. And advice on losing weight and/or diet not to be unless otherwise covered in the agreed procedures.

Jonathan