Investment Zones...
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..well following the out cry from the RSPB it looks like both Cornwall and Somerset are to become investment zones, complete with a deregulation of planning controls...
.....how damned angry am I right now..?
.....how damned angry am I right now..?
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Is that bad, don't they need investment ??cycle tramp wrote: ↑3 Oct 2022, 4:20pm ..well following the out cry from the RSPB it looks like both Cornwall and Somerset are to become investment zones, complete with a deregulation of planning controls...
.....how damned angry am I right now..?
Jacob looks after his constituents
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Last time there was large-scale, unregulated industrial development in Cornwall, it left a legacy of environmental despoliation from which the place has taken two centuries to recover, so the key is to have properly regulated development, not the Wild West. Since JR-M famously worships the C18th, it probably is time to be afraid.
As always, a question of balance, and it is true that those counties need dependable jobs, which they lack badly.
As always, a question of balance, and it is true that those counties need dependable jobs, which they lack badly.
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Ianhttps://www.theguardian.com/global/2022/oct/03/investment-zones-could-be-allowed-in-englands-national-parks wrote:Investment zones could be allowed in England’s national parks
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Details of the government’s new zones to increase housebuilding and commercial development reveal councils can apply for zones in national parks, areas of outstanding natural beauty, (AONBs) sites of special scientific interest, (SSSIs) and green belt land.
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Otherwise known as the country sidePsamathe wrote: ↑3 Oct 2022, 4:59pmIanhttps://www.theguardian.com/global/2022/oct/03/investment-zones-could-be-allowed-in-englands-national-parks wrote:Investment zones could be allowed in England’s national parks
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Details of the government’s new zones to increase housebuilding and commercial development reveal councils can apply for zones in national parks, areas of outstanding natural beauty, (AONBs) sites of special scientific interest, (SSSIs) and green belt land.
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National Parks are different from countryside. They serve specific purposes that open countryside does not always.jois wrote: ↑3 Oct 2022, 5:07pmOtherwise known as the country sidePsamathe wrote: ↑3 Oct 2022, 4:59pmIanhttps://www.theguardian.com/global/2022/oct/03/investment-zones-could-be-allowed-in-englands-national-parks wrote:Investment zones could be allowed in England’s national parks
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Details of the government’s new zones to increase housebuilding and commercial development reveal councils can apply for zones in national parks, areas of outstanding natural beauty, (AONBs) sites of special scientific interest, (SSSIs) and green belt land.
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They do however mostly consist of country side, building over a whole national park would I feel be wrong, but that's not what is being contemplated is it. Communities need houses and jobs, you cant really turn great chunks of the UK into museums, that way only second home owners can live there, which is what happens in a Lot of places
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You can though, regulate industries so they are not polluting eyesores, or sited in the most important bits of the little remaining natural ecosystem.
It's the same the whole world over
It's the poor what gets the blame
It's the rich what gets the pleasure
Isn't it a blooming shame?
It's the poor what gets the blame
It's the rich what gets the pleasure
Isn't it a blooming shame?
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Well you can, is there any suggestion they are not, there are not many natural eco systems left in the UK anyway, it's been farmed for many thousands of years, it's green ish but not in anyway natural, Dartmoor' and that's about it. I'm sure they can work round the few bits of ancient woodland we have leftMike Sales wrote: ↑3 Oct 2022, 5:28pmYou can though, regulate industries so they are not polluting eyesores, or sited in the most important bits of the little remaining natural ecosystem.
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Yes, that is exactly what is being proposed for these "Enterprise Zones", siting them in SSSIs. AONBs,.etc.
You will find that many people treasure the beauty of these areas farmed for centuries, and are not ready to have a free for all for exploiters.
It's the same the whole world over
It's the poor what gets the blame
It's the rich what gets the pleasure
Isn't it a blooming shame?
It's the poor what gets the blame
It's the rich what gets the pleasure
Isn't it a blooming shame?
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It’s all about trust at this stage, given an absence of details, so do you trust the present government to strike the right balance between protecting the environment and other things, because frankly I don’t.
Saying the the whole landscape of the UK is the product of human interventions is both true and irrelevant - we’ve got the environment we’ve got, and we either look after it and hand it on in good health, or we trash it further, added to which there are ways of increasing employment and economic activity without trashing the environment further.
Saying the the whole landscape of the UK is the product of human interventions is both true and irrelevant - we’ve got the environment we’ve got, and we either look after it and hand it on in good health, or we trash it further, added to which there are ways of increasing employment and economic activity without trashing the environment further.
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I said most of it wasn't natural in responce to someone who suggested it was, that seem fair comment to me. If you want to say let's protect one man made environment from another man made environment that's different,Nearholmer wrote: ↑3 Oct 2022, 5:48pm It’s all about trust at this stage, given an absence of details, so do you trust the present government to strike the right balance between protecting the environment and other things, because frankly I don’t.
Saying the the whole landscape of the UK is the product of human interventions is both true and irrelevant - we’ve got the environment we’ve got, and we either look after it and hand it on in good health, or we trash it further, added to which there are ways of increasing employment and economic activity without trashing the environment further.
You are rather jumping in with " trash it" these places are crying out for investment and homes and work, they are dieing as human communities because of the lack of.
I don't think anyone even the government wants to see it trashed, it doesn't have to be that way to achieve the aims as long as you don't consider a few building to be trashing it
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Yes, that's the important question. What do we do from where we are now? Make it better or make it worse?Nearholmer wrote: ↑3 Oct 2022, 5:48pm ...
Saying the the whole landscape of the UK is the product of human interventions is both true and irrelevant - we’ve got the environment we’ve got, and we either look after it and hand it on in good health, or we trash it further, added to which there are ways of increasing employment and economic activity without trashing the environment further.
Not another manufactured argument and contrived word game about "natural".
Jonathan
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The Somerset investment zone will be at the gravity site North of Bridgwater and within easy access to the M5 and the main line railway. Ian Liddell Grainger is the MP. The site was formerly the Royal Ordance Factory making explosives. I believe they were hoping to attract investment for a giga battery facility. Elon Musk has inspected the site by all accounts.
I prefer batteries to explosives.
I prefer batteries to explosives.
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It's one or the other, you can view humans as natural which of course we are and then everything we do is also natural or you can demark our activities an unnatural in which case everything we have ever done, including most of the countryside is also unnatural .Jdsk wrote: ↑3 Oct 2022, 6:01pmYes, that's the important question. What do we do from where we are now? Make it better or make it worse?Nearholmer wrote: ↑3 Oct 2022, 5:48pm ...
Saying the the whole landscape of the UK is the product of human interventions is both true and irrelevant - we’ve got the environment we’ve got, and we either look after it and hand it on in good health, or we trash it further, added to which there are ways of increasing employment and economic activity without trashing the environment further.
Not another manufactured argument and contrived word game about "natural".
Jonathan
There need to be some consistency in the argument