British Cycling partners with Shell

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Paulatic wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 9:58am
The eight-year sponsorship deal, believed to be worth between £1 million and £1.5 million annually,
Who knew bad publicity was so cheap?
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Bmblbzzz wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 10:07am The last part is very interesting (potentially)
Typical of this sort of thing.

especially these days.

Big money big oil focussed on maximising profits pretty much come what may - fiscally conservative/socially liberal on the face of it. Hence the splashing of LBTQ etc etc banners on loads of stuff from companies day to day intent on lots of other bad stuff. It's an old story - greenwashing/art-washing.
The Medici, rampant financial operators, corrupters of the papacy (if that was possible), trashers of Florentine democracy, are today remembered by many, especially many Italians, as sponsors of the arts.
oo - shiny pretty stuff - they must be sensitive souls.
There's a tale behind many many of those blue madonnas - buying favour and kudos.
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Paulatic wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 9:58am
The eight-year sponsorship deal, believed to be worth between £1 million and £1.5 million annually, included “specific investment from Shell UK to support a new programme which aims to break down the barriers disabled people face when accessing cycling
I know that British Cycling is one of the bodies providing funding for an organisation in my area which provides opportunities for disabled people to ride bikes/trikes. In that particular case BC is one of a number of funding providers (and I suspect not the largest). As far as I am aware BC does not have any direct involvement in that organisation. Obviously BC is responsible for the paralympic cycling team, but that is elite competition riding, which will have limited appeal/interest in the context of encouraging disabled (or able bodied) non-riders to try cycling.

In contrast CUK already appears to be much more actively involved in this field.

From https://www.cyclinguk.org/community-out ... ng-network:
Cycling UK has supported more than 40 Inclusive Cycling Centres across England as part of a Big Lottery funded project. In partnership with Cycling Projects, Cycling UK launched the largest network of centres that provided thousands of people with the opportunity to experience cycling each year, many for the first time.

The Inclusive Cycling Network offered a unique funding opportunity for organisations with the chance to create real impact at a local level.

Each Inclusive Cycling Centre was unique and specialised in working with people with physical or mental disabilities, new cyclists, the elderly, injury rehabilitation referrals or just those lacking the confidence to take a bicycle out on the road. The centres were led by dedicated and inspirational staff and volunteers that needed our support to improve their facilities, services and to give them the sustainability they deserved.

The centres had access to adapted bikes like hand-cycles, tandems and tricycles that allow them to give people with a wide variety of needs a chance to experience cycling.

Cycling UK committed to supporting them by showcasing the impact of their work for individuals and communities, generating new support in the form of volunteers, training opportunities and funding, and putting inclusive cycling on the agenda so their work attracted important funding.

If you're an Inclusive Cycling Centre please contact us as we have volunteering support services.
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Sweep wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 10:53am
Bmblbzzz wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 10:07am The last part is very interesting (potentially)
Typical of this sort of thing.

especially these days.

Big money big oil focussed on maximising profits pretty much come what may - fiscally conservative/socially liberal on the face of it. Hence the splashing of LBTQ etc etc banners on loads of stuff from companies day to day intent on lots of other bad stuff. It's an old story - greenwashing/art-washing.
The Medici, rampant financial operators, corrupters of the papacy (if that was possible), trashers of Florentine democracy, are today remembered by many, especially many Italians, as sponsors of the arts.
oo - shiny pretty stuff - they must be sensitive souls.
There's a tale behind many many of those blue madonnas - buying favour and kudos.
Of course. But the Medici did leave us the Botticellis etc – will Shell leave us accessible cycling? Legacy is not the contemporary effect, we won't know till – too late?
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Bmblbzzz wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 12:45pm
Sweep wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 10:53am
Bmblbzzz wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 10:07am The last part is very interesting (potentially)
Typical of this sort of thing.

especially these days.

Big money big oil focussed on maximising profits pretty much come what may - fiscally conservative/socially liberal on the face of it. Hence the splashing of LBTQ etc etc banners on loads of stuff from companies day to day intent on lots of other bad stuff. It's an old story - greenwashing/art-washing.
The Medici, rampant financial operators, corrupters of the papacy (if that was possible), trashers of Florentine democracy, are today remembered by many, especially many Italians, as sponsors of the arts.
oo - shiny pretty stuff - they must be sensitive souls.
There's a tale behind many many of those blue madonnas - buying favour and kudos.
Of course. But the Medici did leave us the Botticellis etc – will Shell leave us accessible cycling? Legacy is not the contemporary effect, we won't know till – too late?
If Shell had any thought for posterity they would not be drilling, let alone exploring for more.
The motive for their greenwashing is to continue business as usual, as long as possible.
It's the same the whole world over
It's the poor what gets the blame
It's the rich what gets the pleasure
Isn't it a blooming shame?
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Meanwhile down under, Australia's women's netball team is finding its sponsorship deal with a mining company controversial, though it seems more for human rights than climate change or pollution.
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Bmblbzzz wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 1:44pm Meanwhile down under, Australia's women's netball team is finding its sponsorship deal with a mining company controversial, though it seems more for human rights than climate change or pollution.
well shell ticks boxes on all those three:
human rights, climate change, pollution.
don't underestimate them.
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tosh from Chris Hoy

https://road.cc/content/news/chris-hoy- ... nda-296617

I well remember his smirking defence of gamesmanship/deliberately falling off the bike putting me off the entire culture of British Cycling.

and of course worse, far worse, came out later.

Yes Sir Chris, a mega mega bucks outfit like Shell is going to change its views and business practice because of a cycling body.

who's kidding/farking who?

I look forward to British Cycling's intervention into the Ukraine conflict.
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Seems to have been his latest and most publicly visible bad move, not necessarily one which alone got him sacked.
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Bmblbzzz wrote: 31 Oct 2022, 8:27pm Seems to have been his latest and most publicly visible bad move, not necessarily one which alone got him sacked.
such as...? I mean as much as I think the culture of any organisation bleeds down from the top, I cant necessarily hold him accountable for any ill advised advice BC have passed out recently. Id hold him accountable for a bunch of other stuff around organising the sport/race side nationally, but I dont think those are the problems that led to this.

and I also partly question howcome he is the only one leaving the building, given the structure at BC seems to imply the board have a collective role in any decision making the CEO makes, even if the CEO is ultimately the one with power, it would be incredulous to think he'd been making decisions that didnt have the majority, if not full, support of the board.
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Such as the others mentioned in the article above. There are at least three of them and while they might not be Facer's acts, they are events for which he as CEO ultimately is carrying the can.
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Bmblbzzz wrote: 1 Nov 2022, 9:15am Such as the others mentioned in the article above. There are at least three of them and while they might not be Facer's acts, they are events for which he as CEO ultimately is carrying the can.
This. That's how it works.
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Bonefishblues wrote: 1 Nov 2022, 9:19am
Bmblbzzz wrote: 1 Nov 2022, 9:15am Such as the others mentioned in the article above. There are at least three of them and while they might not be Facer's acts, they are events for which he as CEO ultimately is carrying the can.
This. That's how it works.
I dont agree :D because I dont think the other two acts are remotely a resigning issue even combined with the Shell deal, unless he as CEO personally overruled the advice he was being given that they were the wrong decisions to make by the board, so he was acting rogue or against the best interests of BC, and theres no evidence from the published minutes of board meetings that was happening and we arent hearing that in leaks to the media of that kind.

Some of the issues they dealt with are always going to be controversial, thats just the world we live in today, fwiw I thought the reaction to the funeral advice was massively over egged I didnt have a problem with them issuing that advice even if Id ignored it, and Ive mentioned up thread my feeling on the Shell deal, and pinning Freemans long delayed case on him is a stretch even for the Grauniad trying to paint the worst picture.

Yes he carries the can for all the decisions BC make as the CEO,the buck stops with him, but if the board backed him making those decisions, then they are as culpable and none of them are resigning, and I dont recall there being such a rush to force previous CEOs out because of problems in the organisation, of which there have been many in the past.

So what exactly does changing the CEO give BC ? the Shell deal isnt going anywhere soon, the course set by the previous CEO will likely be fully adopted by the new CEO because the whole point was it was in BCs interest to go the direction they are, any downturn in membership or commercial deal as a result of the Shell setup isnt going to change. It seems like shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.
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I have been told British Cycling HQ in Manchester has Just Stop Oil protesters on its roof in protest about Shell. BC AGM was to take place there today, but was transfered to internet at last minute to prevent disruption

I attend the agm on line as guest, it was short meeting with some tech delays There was point made about not enough volunteers coming forward to organise events. Membership has plateaued.


Did anybody else here attend?
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