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Re: Britannia Un-Trussed - The Sunak Sojourn

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Jdsk wrote: 6 Nov 2022, 9:49am
Jdsk wrote: 4 Nov 2022, 5:31pm "Concerns have been raised over Rishi Sunak’s decision to appoint Gavin Williamson back into the cabinet after the former chief whip Wendy Morton accused him of sending “vile and threatening messages” to her.":
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ndy-morton
The messages:
https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/sta ... 6122009600
"Gavin Williamson faces third Cabinet sacking after telling Liz Truss’ chief whip ‘you f*** us all over’":
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20343670/ ... t-sacking/

It’s like déjà vu all over again.

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Re: Britannia Un-Trussed - The Sunak Sojourn

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Jdsk wrote: 6 Nov 2022, 10:55pm
Jdsk wrote: 6 Nov 2022, 9:49am
Jdsk wrote: 4 Nov 2022, 5:31pm "Concerns have been raised over Rishi Sunak’s decision to appoint Gavin Williamson back into the cabinet after the former chief whip Wendy Morton accused him of sending “vile and threatening messages” to her.":
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ndy-morton
The messages:
https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/sta ... 6122009600
"Gavin Williamson faces third Cabinet sacking after telling Liz Truss’ chief whip ‘you f*** us all over’":
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20343670/ ... t-sacking/

It’s like déjà vu all over again.

Jonathan
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Re: Britannia Un-Trussed - The Sunak Sojourn

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What really struck me about those messages was what a spoilt brat he came across as.
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Stevek76 wrote: 7 Nov 2022, 11:04am What really struck me about those messages was what a spoilt brat he came across as.
The Tory Party is for spoilt brats by spoilt brats. They're spoilt in many ways: literally spoilt by the child abuse of sending them aged 8 to boarding schools, where they learn just how horrible humans can be. Lord of The Flies, continued at later boarding schools containing even nastier fellows from whom nastiness is easily caught.

At the same time, these damaged children are awarded vast opportunities for marching unquestioned into social roles that come with oodles of power and influence, as well as the opportunity to increase their inherited wealth by large amounts. They are literally entitled to a large dollop of high status, because of who they are rather than any fitness for that status.

The British class system is alive and well, serviced and maintained by the Tory Party and other repositories of such folk. Examine other British institutions that run the place (sort of) and you'll find plenty of similar spoilt brats: the BBC management & that of other mass media; the legal system; the Labour and other political parties; the execs of big business & consultancy firms; the armed forces officer class; the senior civil service; academia; etc..

The British tradition of aristocracy, inherited privilege and self-perpetuating mechanisms for creating and promoting the nastiness that craves and annexes power unto itself is alive and well. Unfortunately, so is it's habit of being inept, incompetent and thoroughly dishonest.

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Re: Britannia Un-Trussed - The Sunak Sojourn

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Jdsk wrote: 6 Nov 2022, 10:55pm
Jdsk wrote: 6 Nov 2022, 9:49am
Jdsk wrote: 4 Nov 2022, 5:31pm "Concerns have been raised over Rishi Sunak’s decision to appoint Gavin Williamson back into the cabinet after the former chief whip Wendy Morton accused him of sending “vile and threatening messages” to her.":
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ndy-morton
The messages:
https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/sta ... 6122009600
"Gavin Williamson faces third Cabinet sacking after telling Liz Truss’ chief whip ‘you f*** us all over’":
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20343670/ ... t-sacking/

It’s like déjà vu all over again.
The Scottish Conservative party leader has said that he'd sack a shadow Minister for this.

And the Prime Minister has expressed his full confidence.

Both are traditional markers on the glide path towards receiving a quarter of your annual salary as a lump sum.

Jonathan
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Jdsk wrote: 7 Nov 2022, 2:31pm
Jdsk wrote: 6 Nov 2022, 10:55pm
Jdsk wrote: 6 Nov 2022, 9:49am
The messages:
https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/sta ... 6122009600
"Gavin Williamson faces third Cabinet sacking after telling Liz Truss’ chief whip ‘you f*** us all over’":
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20343670/ ... t-sacking/

It’s like déjà vu all over again.
The Scottish Conservative party leader has said that he'd sack a shadow Minister for this.

And the Prime Minister has expressed his full confidence.

Both are traditional markers on the glide path towards receiving a quarter of your annual salary as a lump sum.
The Prime Minister:
"There’s an independent complaint process that’s being conducted at the moment. It will be right to let that process conclude before making any decisions about the future."

Jonathan
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Royal yacht/national flagship abandoned. Multi-role ocean surveillance ship to be procured. I'm not sure if that's the first or second.

Jonathan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Rol ... lance_Ship
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Jdsk wrote: 7 Nov 2022, 4:53pm Royal yacht/national flagship abandoned. Multi-role ocean surveillance ship to be procured. I'm not sure if that's the first or second.

Jonathan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Rol ... lance_Ship
I wonder if it was because Lizzie died or the state of the country's economy
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francovendee wrote: 8 Nov 2022, 8:23am
Jdsk wrote: 7 Nov 2022, 4:53pm Royal yacht/national flagship abandoned. Multi-role ocean surveillance ship to be procured. I'm not sure if that's the first or second.

Jonathan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Rol ... lance_Ship
I wonder if it was because Lizzie died or the state of the country's economy
HMS Brexitania - "Iceberg straight ahead!"

I would think it's because of the dead duck from day one Brexit and the detrimental effect on the economy with laughing stock worldwide prestige.
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Debs wrote: 8 Nov 2022, 9:12am
francovendee wrote: 8 Nov 2022, 8:23am
Jdsk wrote: 7 Nov 2022, 4:53pm Royal yacht/national flagship abandoned. Multi-role ocean surveillance ship to be procured. I'm not sure if that's the first or second.

Jonathan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Rol ... lance_Ship
I wonder if it was because Lizzie died or the state of the country's economy
HMS Brexitania - "Iceberg straight ahead!"

I would think it's because of the dead duck from day one Brexit and the detrimental effect on the economy with laughing stock worldwide prestige.
Here is a pic of the newly commissioned surveillance boat, which will be used to survey the unpatriotic, foreign invader-swimmers and anyone not rich and so likely to be a dangerous demonstrator. Although named "HMS Broken Britain" it flies the Ingurland flag as The Admiralty has been told that those other colonies to the north and west of Ingurland don't count anymore.
Not getting up steam.
Not getting up steam.
It may be captained by Bokum, who is looking for a job to suit his talents, so steering HMS Broken Britain into the rocks will be just the thing. "Right hand down a bit!"

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Re: Britannia Un-Trussed - The Sunak Sojourn

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Jdsk wrote: 7 Nov 2022, 3:44pm
Jdsk wrote: 7 Nov 2022, 2:31pm
Jdsk wrote: 6 Nov 2022, 10:55pm
"Gavin Williamson faces third Cabinet sacking after telling Liz Truss’ chief whip ‘you f*** us all over’":
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20343670/ ... t-sacking/

It’s like déjà vu all over again.
The Scottish Conservative party leader has said that he'd sack a shadow Minister for this.

And the Prime Minister has expressed his full confidence.

Both are traditional markers on the glide path towards receiving a quarter of your annual salary as a lump sum.
The Prime Minister:
"There’s an independent complaint process that’s being conducted at the moment. It will be right to let that process conclude before making any decisions about the future."
"Minister refuses to fully endorse Williamson, saying telling offical to slit throat would be 'utterly, utterly unacceptable'"

Hard to comment on that... The Onion or Macbeth?

Jonathan
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Jdsk wrote: 8 Nov 2022, 9:56am
Jdsk wrote: 7 Nov 2022, 3:44pm
Jdsk wrote: 7 Nov 2022, 2:31pm
The Scottish Conservative party leader has said that he'd sack a shadow Minister for this.

And the Prime Minister has expressed his full confidence.

Both are traditional markers on the glide path towards receiving a quarter of your annual salary as a lump sum.
The Prime Minister:
"There’s an independent complaint process that’s being conducted at the moment. It will be right to let that process conclude before making any decisions about the future."
"Minister refuses to fully endorse Williamson, saying telling offical to slit throat would be 'utterly, utterly unacceptable'"

Hard to comment on that... The Onion or Macbeth?
Exit stage right. Of course.

Farcical.

Jonathan
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"Senior civil servants at the Ministry of Justice were offered “respite or a route out” of the department when Dominic Raab was reappointed last month, amid concerns that some were still traumatised by his behaviour during a previous stint there."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -route-out

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