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And now... Prince of Darkness and nutcase Lammy are now to be dealing with Trump. Two Tier Keir can certainly pick the worst possible choices? :(

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al_yrpal wrote: 20 Dec 2024, 3:27pm And now... Prince of Darkness and nutcase Lammy are now to be dealing with Trump. Two Tier Keir can certainly pick the worst possible choices? :(
There was at least one worse choice I saw suggested!
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mjr wrote: 20 Dec 2024, 4:47pm
al_yrpal wrote: 20 Dec 2024, 3:27pm And now... Prince of Darkness and nutcase Lammy are now to be dealing with Trump. Two Tier Keir can certainly pick the worst possible choices? :(
There was at least one worse choice I saw suggested!
It is SUCH a shame that the natural choice has ruled himself out :( https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/far ... trump-2-0/
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mattheus wrote: 20 Dec 2024, 5:04pm
mjr wrote: 20 Dec 2024, 4:47pm
al_yrpal wrote: 20 Dec 2024, 3:27pm And now... Prince of Darkness and nutcase Lammy are now to be dealing with Trump. Two Tier Keir can certainly pick the worst possible choices? :(
There was at least one worse choice I saw suggested!
It is SUCH a shame that the natural choice has ruled himself out :( https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/far ... trump-2-0/
That was it!
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Chagos giveaway
Diplomatically, I'm not sure that there was much choice, which is why the previous Conservative government initiated this
When the deal was signed, after years of talks, Sir Keir and his then-Mauritian counterpart Pravind Jugnauth called it a "seminal moment in our relationship and a demonstration of our enduring commitment to the peaceful resolution of disputes and the rule of law". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy9441lrjzo
Brexit, ironically, saw EU support for the UK wain, but the US will keep it's UK-leased Diego Garcia base

A new government was elected in Mauritius last month and they've sent the October deal back for renegotiation, so nobody has given anything away until the final Treaty is signed
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In addition everything seems to be going wrong for them
Total lack of awareness and planning, it was always going to go wrong. Starmer isn't political and it shows
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al_yrpal wrote: 20 Dec 2024, 3:27pm And now... Prince of Darkness and nutcase Lammy are now to be dealing with Trump. Two Tier Keir can certainly pick the worst possible choices? :(

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pete75 wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 5:12pm
al_yrpal wrote: 20 Dec 2024, 3:27pm And now... Prince of Darkness and nutcase Lammy are now to be dealing with Trump. Two Tier Keir can certainly pick the worst possible choices? :(

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Is this the same Al who complains about childish slurs?
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Happy New Year! Here's Farage, Johnson and Truss laughing about how the Nazis should have won and singing about how racist they are:
Inside Carlton Club bash where guests laugh at Hitler jokes – https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/polit ... ow-387819/
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There was a time when people who were anti-Nazi would make Hitler jokes. Think "Springtime for Hitler". Now, rightly or wrongly, sensibilities have shifted and most of us would steer clear. For me, it doesn't matter if a joke is funny. If it can be expected to really upset someone, give it a miss.

As for Farage, Boris and Truss, I would expect them to be old fashioned in that regard. And regarding their serious views on Hitler, who knows?
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^ pwa: "As for Farage, Boris and Truss, I would expect them to be old fashioned in that regard. And regarding their serious views on Hitler, who knows?"

I think I could have a pretty good stab at discerning their serious views on Hitler.
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djnotts wrote: 4 Jan 2025, 11:53am ^ pwa: "As for Farage, Boris and Truss, I would expect them to be old fashioned in that regard. And regarding their serious views on Hitler, who knows?"

I think I could have a pretty good stab at discerning their serious views on Hitler.
I doubt BJ has a serious thought in his head, beyond whatever gives him gratification right now. Farage is driven by whatever he is irritated by, but without any discernable vision. But Truss is sufficiently swivel-eyed to make me wonder what goes on deep down in her psyche.
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pwa wrote: 4 Jan 2025, 12:59pm
djnotts wrote: 4 Jan 2025, 11:53am ^ pwa: "As for Farage, Boris and Truss, I would expect them to be old fashioned in that regard. And regarding their serious views on Hitler, who knows?"

I think I could have a pretty good stab at discerning their serious views on Hitler.
I doubt BJ has a serious thought in his head, beyond whatever gives him gratification right now. Farage is driven by whatever he is irritated by, but without any discernable vision. But Truss is sufficiently swivel-eyed to make me wonder what goes on deep down in her psyche.
From the way she used to meet both sides of local disputes and try to give both the impression that she agreed with them, I suspect much of Truss's thought is "how do I appear to be on the winning side here?"

It was also part of her downfall in her reelection campaign, as she was said to be two-faced about a proposed factory farm.
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May I suggest that, as part of the new year, we as a populace decided that we don't need any of them.. that we address ourselves as fully responsible adults, and rather than have personalities implementing their own version of their future upon us, we demand an administration, which implements policies that the general public votes directly on.
There are too many fevered egos in the political realm at the moment and too few talented visionaries. It is time we asked them to step down, and seek an administration to take their place
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cycle tramp wrote: 4 Jan 2025, 10:41pm May I suggest that, as part of the new year, we as a populace decided that we don't need any of them.. that we address ourselves as fully responsible adults, and rather than have personalities implementing their own version of their future upon us, we demand an administration, which implements policies that the general public votes directly on.
I'm sure one of the small fascist parties of 20-25 years ago advocated such a system.

Of course, the problem is that most people won't have enough time to study the issues, so many would just vote for whatever some fevered egos in the political realm told them to, and we'd be no better off and potentially much worse.

We could choose some number from among us and pay them to take the time to study the smaller issues and decide the best approaches, but that's pretty much what we have now, if people do as intended.
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