Whats This? Bee-Wasp-Possible Bird.

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Whats This? Bee-Wasp-Possible Bird.

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Hi,
First thought it was the wasp nest.
But now I look at the picture I would say possibly bird?
Got to be a bird because it's a grass grass stuffed up there.
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Or, a mouse?
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House Martin ?
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Almost certainly a bird. It could be a Cliff Swallow (v. rare in the UK) or House Martin (much more likely)
They'll return and might use the same nest next year. If it's your property protect the electrical box because it'll be covered in poop and maintenance disturbing the nest could be illegal
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Looks more like a Swallow than a House Martin.
Is it inside or outside?
House Martin usually nest outside under the eaves:-
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Whereas Swallows usually nest inside barns/sheds etc:-
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House Martins access the nest via a small hole whereas Swallows nests are open topped.Dozens of them in the barn on the farm where my parents live.
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Hi,
It's outside but under the decking.
Plastic socket is sealed so I doubt it would be affected by poop.
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NATURAL ANKLING wrote: 24 Nov 2022, 3:53pm Hi,
It's outside but under the decking.
Plastic socket is sealed so I doubt it would be affected by poop.
Under the decking as is near the ground?
I doubt it's a bird if that is the case.More likely insect/rodent etc.
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I still wonder if it’s fieldmouse.

It’s not hugely different from what the little devils created inside one of my bike panniers left hanging in the shed during the winter.
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Location, location, location...birds tend to nest either higher or on the ground
What's the nest made from? Mud suggests a bird, grass, etc either bird or rodent and papery is likely to be an insect
Egg shells or poop anywhere nearby? Fresh mouse poop is commonly like small, black grains of rice, becoming lighter in colour with age. It's also full of nasties belying its size
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Hi,
PedallingSquares wrote: 24 Nov 2022, 4:30pm
NATURAL ANKLING wrote: 24 Nov 2022, 3:53pm Hi,
It's outside but under the decking.
Plastic socket is sealed so I doubt it would be affected by poop.
Under the decking as is near the ground?
I doubt it's a bird if that is the case.More likely insect/rodent etc.
Sorry its a raised deck say 10-12 foot!
Open flight path for birds.
Il'e take a closer look next week............
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NATURAL ANKLING wrote: 25 Nov 2022, 11:33am Hi,
PedallingSquares wrote: 24 Nov 2022, 4:30pm
NATURAL ANKLING wrote: 24 Nov 2022, 3:53pm Hi,
It's outside but under the decking.
Plastic socket is sealed so I doubt it would be affected by poop.
Under the decking as is near the ground?
I doubt it's a bird if that is the case.More likely insect/rodent etc.
Sorry its a raised deck say 10-12 foot!
Open flight path for birds.
Then I would guess Swallow.Generally mud/dried grass/feathers.
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if no mud, then wren.

photo quality too poor for my eyes to make out the details.

It's an odd shape for anything though....
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Hi,
tenbikes wrote: 25 Nov 2022, 7:21pm if no mud, then wren.

photo quality too poor for my eyes to make out the details.

It's an odd shape for anything though....
I'll take some better photos with some more detail and higher up, next week.
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Hi,
Well I took another picture and this time I got a ladder.
Well it's one of those things, doesn't help not looking at things in too much detail, normally I look at everything in detail but there you go.
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Hi,
You'll have to forgive me it was dark when I took the original photo, and I'm not sure I have my glasses on either :lol:
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