Convert 1 1/8" threaded to sealed bearings
Convert 1 1/8" threaded to sealed bearings
This is now the 2nd time I've changed my headset, winter comes and roadsalt get in & rusts things up.
Can I get a threaded headset for 1 1/8" that has sealed bearings, or could I convert to a threadless system.
I know going threadless would leave threads exposed on the old steerer but I could always hide that with some heatshrink.
Can I get a threaded headset for 1 1/8" that has sealed bearings, or could I convert to a threadless system.
I know going threadless would leave threads exposed on the old steerer but I could always hide that with some heatshrink.
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Aheadset converters are still available if you want to go threadless. May only work on a steel steerer.
https://spacycles.co.uk/m9b0s88p2989/BB ... be-Adapter
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https://spacycles.co.uk/m9b0s88p2989/BB ... be-Adapter
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Re: Convert 1 1/8" threaded to sealed bearings
Yes, there's probably a choice, this is the only one I have experience with, it was fine, nothing to report, though I can also say the same for the lose ball type headsets I've used.
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/headsets/ta ... et-silver/
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Tange FL270C has a stack height that suits most bikes. 35.3mm, 33mm if you leave out the useless washer. Sealed cartridge bearings.
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Presumably it is the lower bearing race that is going rusty? I don’t believe there is any issue in fitting the lower race from a better sealed Ahead headset on your bike, and keeping the existing upper race and threaded steerer arrangement.
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I have a threadless sealed bearing headset on Moulton, but it's 1".
I can buy one of these for new bearings, and ditch the headset unit.
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/headsets/ta ... et-silver/
I can buy one of these for new bearings, and ditch the headset unit.
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/headsets/ta ... et-silver/
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You'll never know if you don't try it.
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Spot on - mix and match and use a sealed bottom cup, bearing etc with a threaded top.
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OP - Surely it isn't the type of headset system (threaded) that is the issue? it's the bearing sealing. A good water resistant grease is a bonus, but a mudguard (even just a tiny one to protect the headset) is likely to be the perfect solution.
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Re: Convert 1 1/8" threaded to sealed bearings
Try googling "cartridge 1 1/8" threaded headset" check that the stack height is similar to your existing headset, and get one of the slightly more expensive ones. Also fit mudguards.Dr pepper wrote: ↑30 Nov 2022, 10:04am This is now the 2nd time I've changed my headset, winter comes and roadsalt get in & rusts things up.
Can I get a threaded headset for 1 1/8" that has sealed bearings, or could I convert to a threadless system.
I know going threadless would leave threads exposed on the old steerer but I could always hide that with some heatshrink.
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Re: Convert 1 1/8" threaded to sealed bearings
It's the mudguard that's the key part - I've been riding around using a headset which was a bargain basement £3.99 when I bought it 8 years ago. If no water gets in it will last very well.gregoryoftours wrote: ↑5 Dec 2022, 8:49pmTry googling "cartridge 1 1/8" threaded headset" check that the stack height is similar to your existing headset, and get one of the slightly more expensive ones. Also fit mudguards.Dr pepper wrote: ↑30 Nov 2022, 10:04am This is now the 2nd time I've changed my headset, winter comes and roadsalt get in & rusts things up.
Can I get a threaded headset for 1 1/8" that has sealed bearings, or could I convert to a threadless system.
I know going threadless would leave threads exposed on the old steerer but I could always hide that with some heatshrink.
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You could also make a protective 'sock' for the existing lower race from a bit of old inner tube.
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Or a condom, for the lower race. Follows the contours better..
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Interesting about the tange headset, I'm a plant fitter by trade, there is a maufacturer of industrial bearings called seiki, if they are the same then they are well made.
My bicycle does have decent mudguards and flaps, and I use high quality water and contaminant resistant grease.
My chain is oiled and cleaned at least once a week but still goes rusty, road salt is common place in this part of the land, in winter stuff rusts up in days.
I spose the type of bearing is less important that the seal, loose ball or carteridge, I've seen RS or rubber seal type carteridge bearings running in awful conditions, water, dust, mank and still run for ages perfectly fine, so I'm biased towards them.
My bicycle does have decent mudguards and flaps, and I use high quality water and contaminant resistant grease.
My chain is oiled and cleaned at least once a week but still goes rusty, road salt is common place in this part of the land, in winter stuff rusts up in days.
I spose the type of bearing is less important that the seal, loose ball or carteridge, I've seen RS or rubber seal type carteridge bearings running in awful conditions, water, dust, mank and still run for ages perfectly fine, so I'm biased towards them.