New tyres for Christmas

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Devz
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New tyres for Christmas

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Hi guys

I have a Carrera Hustle 2 with 27.5 in wheels.
I’d like to get some new tyres for it. I mainly ride through the woods, on bike paths, but also on roads to get to work.
Ideally, I’d like bigger wheels for more speed (is this possible with my bike?) , so are there any tyres you would recommend? Budget isn’t crazy, so maybe round £50-£70 mark for both..

Thanks guys
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Devz wrote: 6 Dec 2022, 3:40pm Hi guys

I have a Carrera Hustle 2 with 27.5 in wheels.
I’d like to get some new tyres for it. I mainly ride through the woods, on bike paths, but also on roads to get to work.
Ideally, I’d like bigger wheels for more speed (is this possible with my bike?) , so are there any tyres you would recommend? Budget isn’t crazy, so maybe round £50-£70 mark for both..

Thanks guys
Have a look at gravel tyres here:

https://www.merlincycles.com/cyclocross ... eter=27-5-

There's a number that would meet your budget. You can find other such tyres elsewhere but Merlin seem to be the cheapest for many tyres, particularly Schwalbe, at most times of the year.

Personally I use Schwalbe G-One Speeds for road only when the roads are mucky & wet but Schwalbe Allrounds for forest tracks and similar, as well as on the road. But mine are all 700C not 27.5".

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Seconded regarding gravel tyres.

The Allrounds have a great reputation and were what I sought, but couldn’t get at the time when I went tubeless.

But, how robust are they with tubes, if that is what the OP wants? Some “tubeless ready” tyres are dreadfully puncture-prone with tubes.

I fitted Schwalbe Marathon 365 to my son’s bike for a similar mix of duties to the OP. They are a fair bit chunkier than the Allrounds, but very robust with tubes, which is what was wanted for that bike, and were possibly the easiest tyres to fit I’ve ever encountered, despite being tough treaded.
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Devz
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Thanks guys this is great!

I’m intrigued by “tubeless ready” - is it possible for my bike to go inner tube free? If so, will I need something else for these tyres?

I’m guessing 29in wheels isn’t possible on my bike..?
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Depends on the wheels. They may be ready or not, and if not it may be simple to make them ready or not. If you can find a switched-on person in Halfords, they should be able to tell you.

Tubeless is good, but a bit of a faff sometimes.

The thing not to do is combine a very thin-walled “tubeless ready” tyre with tubes. You will simply get oodles of punctures. Either go full tubeless, in which case most punctures self-seal and you often don’t know they’ve happened, or stick with a tougher tyre and tubes, which is the way I went for my son.

I don’t know the bike in detail, so can’t comment on wheel size, but having looked at it on-line, my gut feel is that it probably won’t take 29/700.
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Thanks everyone

So I think I might go for these:
https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Vittoria-Barzo ... gKUcvD_BwE - are these ok for wet weather though as I’ll be on roads going to work.. ?

I’ve been reading about getting a different one for front and rear, but tbh I’ve been reading so much and don’t really know what I’m doing. I just want something fast that won’t slip out and ultimately will fit my bike 😆
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Devz wrote: 7 Dec 2022, 7:49am Thanks everyone

So I think I might go for these:
https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Vittoria-Barzo ... gKUcvD_BwE - are these ok for wet weather though as I’ll be on roads going to work.. ?
You haven't said what you dislike about your current tyres? Or have you worn them out?
At a glance you seem to be swapping one knobbly MTB tyre with another similar. That's fine if it's what you want, but I think if you're looking to transform the bike you need to look for a different style of tyre, which will have it's own compromises. Those knobblies will be slowing you down on the road, get something faster for the road and you'll lose some grip on mud, we can't have everything. Gravel tyres, as suggested upthread, might be the best compromise, or those tyres with a smoother centre section and knobs on the edge, I've used Schwalbe Hurricanes which are like this, though in typical Schwalbe style, they keep changing them.
On road, weight is a consideration, though not the only one, I'm less sure if it's as relevant off-road. My MTB experience is limited, but it wasn't the tyres that held me back. If it's MTB tyres you need, it's MTB'ers experience that's going to be the most helpful to you.
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The bike the OP has is unlikely to have wheel rims that are tubeless ready. However, most tubeless tyres of the gravel kind seem to be available as versions for tubes; and are often significantly less expensive than the tubeless versions.

I have used tubeless Schwalbe Allrounds with tubes - Schwalbe Air Plus, which are much thicker than standard inner tubes albeit correspondingly heavier. No punctures - but the roads I ride don't seem to have much in the way of puncture causes.

As others have noted, standard MTB knobblies are a poor choice for the road or any other hard-packed surface. Gravel tyres are a better option, with many having designs that are a good compromise between road needs of a tyre and rougher surface needs, if not generally good at really muddy tracks.

For the ultimate, you could try these, which seem to do everything better than all the individual specialist tyres! However, the cost and lack of availability may put most off:

https://road.cc/content/review/rene-her ... res-277795

I confess to being tempted - but only if I ever wear out the Schwalbe G-One Speeds and/or Allrounds I have now, which perform very well indeed for my risk-taking cycling envelope.

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Thanks for all your help guys, I’m really learning a lot. Nevertheless I keep hitting the same issues when looking for recommended specs.

The first being the tyre width; my bike is 2.10 with a 27.5 inch wheel - can I put wider tyres on my bike?

Second issue is the “tubeless ready”. Everytime I find a tyre that may work it says this, so from what I understand I should avoid.

I found this one but again too wide( I think)!
https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Schwalbe-Hurr ... gI3kfD_BwE


Can’t believe how hard this is 😂
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Its quite difficult to do this without the bike in front of us, because one needs to look at the frame to see what a sensible tyre width might be. There needs to be enough clearance between the frame/forks and tyre to so that it won't all gum-up with mud if you go off-road, and especially so that a stone or stick mixed-up with the mud can't jam the front wheel to a stop, pinging you over the front. If in doubt, stick to the size it came with, or narrower.

At risk of adding more confusion, you really do need to think about the balance of how you use the bike. If riding to work is a key use, and its any distance, a narrower, somewhat less knobbly, tyre will make riding on road or hard cycle paths massively easier than fat, knobbly tyres, which are really only needed for significantly lumpy, muddy or rooty paths.

Most 27.5" tyres seem to be fairly hardcore off-road/MTB, with big knobbles, but for riding where you are on the road a fair bit, this one might work nicely https://www.bikester.co.uk/continental- ... oup%20%231

Or this one: https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Schwalbe-Hurri ... 236532.htm

(Choosing the right tyres if you ride over a mix of surfaces is always a nightmare. I've been trying to find "the perfect" tyre for 30+years and still haven't!)
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Here's an article on figuring out how wide you can go.

https://www.renehersecycles.com/how-wid ... can-i-run/

You don't need a bigger wheel, which will be marginally, if at all, faster, and will reduce the max tyre width you can run. Fitting the widest tyre you can on your current wheel will increase the overall diameter, anyway. Plenty of choices in wide, supple 650B/27.5 tyres. I use and love the René Herse ones myself, but they are not cheap.
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Thanks so much guys, this is great.

I’m down to 2 now, the Schwalb Hurricanes:

https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Schwalbe-Hurri ... 236532.htm

https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Schwalbe-Hurri ... gI3kfD_BwE

Ironically, there is only one of each left! 😂

Sorry, last question, could I put the smaller one of the front and the bigger on the back, or should I try and source a pair? If so, would you recommend 2.0 or 2.25 for my bike and needs?

Already looking forward to these! Thanks so much for this
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I've run different size tyres front and back no problem - different makes too. There's only a 1/4" in it anyway.
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Devz wrote: 7 Dec 2022, 5:33pm Thanks so much guys, this is great.

I’m down to 2 now, the Schwalb Hurricanes:

https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Schwalbe-Hurri ... 236532.htm

https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Schwalbe-Hurri ... gI3kfD_BwE

Ironically, there is only one of each left! 😂

Sorry, last question, could I put the smaller one of the front and the bigger on the back, or should I try and source a pair? If so, would you recommend 2.0 or 2.25 for my bike and needs?

Already looking forward to these! Thanks so much for this
Those Schwalbe hurricanes should fit as the wider one is only 4mm wider than the tyres that were sold on the bike. If you have 5mm or more each side of your current tyres where they pass through the forks (front) and chainstay/seat stays (rear) the new ones should be a fine fit too.

Their tread pattern will suit both road and rough tracks but probably not the really muddy stuff.

You might want to look at better inner tubes too, depending what's in there now. The thicker Schwalbe inner tubes do get decent reviews for their ability to resist at least some puncture progs.

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Their tread pattern will suit both road and rough tracks but probably not the really muddy stuff.

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Thanks for this.

Will they be ok over leaves as there seems to be leaves everywhere atm..?

Also and sorry for being dim, but to confirm the 2.0’s (current are 2.1’s) are a solid choice and will fit the bike?
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