...how Carradice is pronounced?

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Jdsk wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 12:04pm
Bmblbzzz wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 12:01pm ...
Similarly Campagnolo: do you pronounce it with the gn as ñ, or with the g and n separately, or ignore the g?
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ñ

It not only has Italian origin, it's an active Italian company.

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You don't ride a lilac Harry Quinn then? :wink:
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Re: ...how Carradice is pronounced?

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More to the point, would you extend that principle of pronouncing names as they are said in their language of origin to
a) names from languages you don't know?
and b) names which are taken from a language other than the language of the company in question (eg Panaracer is a Japanese firm but the name is derived from English)?
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Don't get onto the Mitsubishi Starion controversy.

:lol: :lol:


Meanwhile, is controversy pronounced con-trovv-ersy, or contro-versy?
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Usually, it’s pronounced:

Ar-tif-ish-alli Jen-er-aytid st-awm in a tee-kup.
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Bmblbzzz wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 2:50pmYou don't ride a lilac Harry Quinn then?
Never heard that before! : - )

Any references to Pink Floyd lyrics are always welcome.

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Mick F wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 3:05pm...
Meanwhile, is controversy pronounced con-trovv-ersy, or contro-versy?
Which of those signifies the weight on the second syllable, and which on the third?

Thanks

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Bmblbzzz wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 2:55pm More to the point, would you extend that principle of pronouncing names as they are said in their language of origin to
a) names from languages you don't know?
and b) names which are taken from a language other than the language of the company in question (eg Panaracer is a Japanese firm but the name is derived from English)?
For companies and recent individuals I try to pronounce them as a native speaker would. Nestlé, Porsche, Hyundai. This often invokes ridicule when we turn to flatpack furniture.

: - )

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Carradice themselves say car-a-dice, which is how I've always said it. It does sound Lancastrian if you say it that way.
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pwa wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 3:39pm Carradice themselves say car-a-dice, which is how I've always said it. It does sound Lancastrian if you say it that way.
That company video upthread has a flatter a than Standard English car.

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Jdsk wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 3:42pm
pwa wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 3:39pm Carradice themselves say car-a-dice, which is how I've always said it. It does sound Lancastrian if you say it that way.
That company video upthread has a flatter a than Standard English car.

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And the name, according to this site at least, has a Scots origin: https://www.houseofnames.com/carradice- ... 20Stewarts.
The pronunciation of "car" in the video is exactly how "car" (brum brum) would be said in that area of Lancashire.
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pwa wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 3:45pm ...
And the name, according to this site at least, has a Scots origin: https://www.houseofnames.com/carradice- ... 20Stewarts.
Yes, as discussed upthread. But that's not Scots as in the current language of that name. Strathclyde Britons in present day Scotland would have been speaking a Celtic language.

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pwa wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 3:39pm Carradice themselves say car-a-dice, which is how I've always said it. It does sound Lancastrian if you say it that way.
I'm a Lancastrian, from heritage, upbringing, and schooling. Flat vowels, Wigan accent, the lot. This is despite being in the RN and living in Cornwall for nearly 40 years.

It's carra-diss to me .......... ee by gum! :D
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Re: ...how Carradice is pronounced?

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Jdsk wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 3:31pm
Bmblbzzz wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 2:55pm More to the point, would you extend that principle of pronouncing names as they are said in their language of origin to
a) names from languages you don't know?
and b) names which are taken from a language other than the language of the company in question (eg Panaracer is a Japanese firm but the name is derived from English)?
For companies and recent individuals I try to pronounce them as a native speaker would. Nestlé, Porsche, Hyundai. This often invokes ridicule when we turn to flatpack furniture.

: - )

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Having no idea how Koreans pronounce Hyundai, I googled and found this:


The last one in the video is LG, which is especially interesting as not only is it initials, those initials are from Lucky-Goldstar. So it's quite a good illustration of the "native speaker of which language?" issue.
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Hyundai are running an advertising campaign promoting a preferred pronunciation. Brave.

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Clever “conversation starter” stuff, increasing brand awareness.
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