Citroen concept bev

[simonineaston]

I was all ready to get modestly excited as it seems to tick some nice boxes - good range out of a small battery, nice flat bed luggage space for bike, affordable price, not to mention its novel appearence, but then I clocked the projected launch date of seven years hence...

so ugly its nice !

[geocycle]

Looks about as aerodynamic as me on the bike!

[simonineaston]

That's the first thing I thought - sort of like a Humvee meets an ice-cream sundae! But apparently, according to the pundits on the YT vid.s (who are just journo.s mostly and so not necessarily engineers), aerodynamics only really start to come into play a) at higher speeds and b) the front edge of the vehicle incorporates ducts such that air is guided up and over the flat screen. The reason give for the small flat screen is weight and cost, the aim being to keep both as low as poss. The Oli weighs less than Lotus's latest sports car, they say.

[Nearholmer]

I like this one better

https://2cev.co.uk/

[reohn2]

You'd never loose it on a par park,however much you tried

PS,I don't think it's conception was altogether immaculate

[simonineaston]

That battery powered 2CV is cute...

[Nearholmer]

You want cute?

This is the one kittens post pictures of on Facebook.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.yank ... yling/amp/

[francovendee]

Is there any reason for it to be so ugly?

[Nearholmer]

Given that it’s a concept car, and one trying to grab attention for a slightly different approach to what a car is meant to do, it might be that the answer is: yes, to make everyone sit up, take notice, and talk about it.

The performance spec does seem to be very similar to that of the 2CV, which I regard as a good thing, but it is noticeable how even using novel materials the weight comes out at 1000kg, when the old animal was I think 600kg. Presumably a combination of the mass of the battery, and crash protection, of which I don’t recall there being any in a 2CV.

[reohn2]

Is there any reason for it to be so ugly?

Like Pug dogs so ugly they're cute,or so I'm told.....

[[XAP]Bob]

Looks about as aerodynamic as me on the bike!

Very deliberately designed, and aero dynamics aren't actually obvious to the eye.
It gets over 6m/kWh... the windscreen is at that angle to reduce the amount (cost and weight) of glass

[Biospace]

The Citroën press pack apparently says,
"Rather than being a two and a half tonne palace on wheels filled with screens and gadgets, this car proves you can do more with less"

I'm hoping this sort of car highlights Teslas and other backwards-looking vehicles for the dinosaurs they are.

It's good to see some intelligent thinking in the European motor industry. Tyres to last 300,000 miles (with tread made with some renewables, replaced when needed), lightweight construction, small battery but reasonable range, designed to be refurbished and last for decades. It isn't exactly ideal for squeezing through narrow gaps, though. Those aren't suspension elements in the seat frame, are they?

[[XAP]Bob]

Yes, yes they are air cushions in the seat frame.

[Biospace]

I appreciate their sense of humour.

[Biospace]

I hadn't realised this concept car was released to the public at the Paris Rétromobile this year, as fine an 'exhibition' for transport as there is, there are usually one or more collections of the very oldest two wheeled machines dotted about.

Who would have thought 'the future' would have looked so different in the 1950s - here's a Citroën concept car (one of a series which very nearly made the production lines) from 70 years ago - under 400kg, 18hp from a 425cc horizontally opposed twin cylinder engine, gas over oil self-levelling suspension and 70mph capability.