Who would drive an EV ?

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Biospace
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Airsporter1st wrote: 18 May 2023, 11:49am “I'd welcome a BEV with just one electric motor, designed and engineered with an emphasis on quality, longevity, simplicity and comfort rather than gizmos which are irrelevant.”

Sounds like a milk float would suit?

https://electricmilkfloats.co.uk/for-sale
Not really - bit expensive if that website is for real :mrgreen:
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Well, I started this thread so I thought it about time to make a second contribution...

https://cesafety.co.uk/news/data-reveal ... nd-the-uk/

https://apnews.com/article/cargo-ship-f ... 60c52331ee

"Japanese shipping firm Mitsui OSK announced it would no longer transport electric vehicles".

I wonder how the insurance companies view the risk?

I don't think I would want one of these things cooking off in the garage below the kids bedroom.
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jimlews wrote: 27 Jul 2023, 7:25pm ...
"Japanese shipping firm Mitsui OSK announced it would no longer transport electric vehicles".
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Where's that from, please?

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Jdsk wrote: 27 Jul 2023, 7:29pm
jimlews wrote: 27 Jul 2023, 7:25pm ...
"Japanese shipping firm Mitsui OSK announced it would no longer transport electric vehicles".
...
Where's that from, please?

Jonathan
Thanks Jonathan; you should find it towards the end of this article.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush ... killing-1/
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jimlews wrote: 27 Jul 2023, 7:50pm
Jdsk wrote: 27 Jul 2023, 7:29pm
jimlews wrote: 27 Jul 2023, 7:25pm ...
"Japanese shipping firm Mitsui OSK announced it would no longer transport electric vehicles".
...
Where's that from, please?
Thanks Jonathan; you should find it towards the end of this article.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush ... killing-1/
Thanks.

That reads:
"The Japanese shipping firm Mitsui OSK Lines announced it would no longer transport electric vehicles after the (Felicity Ace) incident, over concerns their batteries pose fire risks"

What Mitusi actually said was that they would temporarily stop transporting used EVs.
https://www.worldcargonews.com/news/new ... -evs-68661
https://www.thedrive.com/news/45112/car ... ce-sinking

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My son has decided that this is his car next year when his Mitsubishi Eclipse cross reaches four

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Shipping companies tend to be wary of carrying anything with fuel in it and charged electric batteries are full of fuel. Batteries are known to cause fires and whilst rare the fires can be a major hazard - as a lot of energy is released in a very short time.
Don’t fret, it’s OK to: ride a simple old bike; ride slowly, walk, rest and admire the view; ride off-road; ride in your raincoat; ride by yourself; ride in the dark; and ride one hundred yards or one hundred miles. Your bike and your choices to suit you.
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The Mitsui announcement was taken after an incident last year and applied to used vehicles.
MOL stops accepting used EVs
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Mitsui OSK Lines (MOL) has confirmed to vehicle importers in New Zealand that it has temporarily stopped accepting used electric vehicles on its ro ro vessels.



MOL recently lost the FELICITY ACE following a vessel fire. The cause of the fire has not yet been released, but the lithium-ion batteries in the electric cars onboard made the fire more difficult to extinguish. There is some concern in the EV industry that the risk of fire increases in used vehicles, where the batteries may have been subject to overcharging or other risk factors. The insurance level carried by the owner a used vehicle, as compared to a car manufacturer shipping new vehicles, also has to be considered.



In New Zealand, MOL has told vehicle importers that its decision had “nothing to do” with the FELICITY ACE incident. Rather MOL has decided to review its standards for accepting used vehicles.



Some 45% of all vehicles imported into New Zealand are used cars from Japan. Carries have developed inspection procedures and requirements for used ICE vehicles, but these are mostly focused on biosecurity risks, fluid leaks and basic mechanical performance so the vehicle can be driven on and off the ship. The procedures were never designed with EVs in mind.
https://www.worldcargonews.com/news/new ... -evs-68661
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Airlines have had restrictions on carrying batteries for several years now. BA, for example, does not allow any spare batteries in hold luggage, and restricts size and number of batteries in products. These are the sort of batteries in your mobile phone, laptop etc.

https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/in ... strictions
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Carlton green wrote: 1 Apr 2023, 9:36pm
Bmblbzzz wrote: 1 Apr 2023, 8:28pm I wouldn't go so far as to say EVs are a good idea, just that they're a less poisonous form of a bad idea.


If we were serious about being green we’d structure society such that unnecessary travel - which seems to be the majority of it - stopped happening.
How would we define unnecessary ? - and how would we "structure" society in order to eliminate the unnecessary travel?
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ANTONISH wrote: 28 Jul 2023, 9:35am
Carlton green wrote: 1 Apr 2023, 9:36pm
Bmblbzzz wrote: 1 Apr 2023, 8:28pm I wouldn't go so far as to say EVs are a good idea, just that they're a less poisonous form of a bad idea.


If we were serious about being green we’d structure society such that unnecessary travel - which seems to be the majority of it - stopped happening.
How would we define unnecessary ? - and how would we "structure" society in order to eliminate the unnecessary travel?
Encourage homeworking. My daughter has been working from home since the start of lockdown. She can do her job perfectly well without having to go into the office, but has now been told she must be in the office for 40% of her time. No real reason for this, she doesn’t work with any of her office co-workers, her team is spread around the country, so contact is by phone and email.

I did the same in the 3 years before I retired. I used to go into the office once every 2 months. Luckily, my organisation was a bit more forward thinking.

Shop local - shops and services should be within walking or cycling distance, so you don’t have to travel to get to them.
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I'd be quite happy to drive and own an EV or hydrogen powered car, only proviso is that we need one with some sort of 4wd to get up our drive (and occasionally pull another vehicle up) in bad conditions, restricts the choice at the moment to very expensive ones.
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EVs (and Hybrids for that matter) aren't homologated to tow at this moment in time.
It will be the end of trailers and caravans perhaps.

If things change in the future, is just a guess.
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Mick F wrote: 28 Jul 2023, 2:32pm EVs (and Hybrids for that matter) aren't homologated to tow at this moment in time.
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This isn't correct. And it was shown not to be in a recent discussion in the BEVs thread.

For example: "Electric Tow Cars Database – Updated June 2023":
https://electrictowcars.co.uk/electric-tow-cars/

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