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pete75 wrote: ↑14 May 2023, 12:26pm You can stick your head in the sand over climate change but don't leave it there so long that you drown when the sea level rises.

They're proposing Sizewell C on our sinking East Anglian coast (a result of the ice having melted in the NW of Britain), let alone with climate change expected to raise the sea by more than half a metre and increased energy in the atmosphere expected to create more serious storm events. Or another of those tidal waves like that created by the Storegga Slide.

Providing you're not at the high tide mark, you can likely bury your head somewhere near the sea for quite a while, providing it's not a collapsing cliff.

The Romans were cultivating vines in Northern England, some say well in to Scotland. The climate is always changing, with or without Man.

The Romans were cultivating vines in Northern England, some say well in to Scotland. The climate is always changing, with or without Man

The Romans introduced central heating, all those hypocausts and terracotta tile makers heating the climate. It's no wonder they were growing grapes in Scotland. Bloomin' Romans!

Yes, the climate does change naturally but it's the recently massively accelerated nature that's the problem, that and politicians around the world burying their collective heads in the sand.

The site for Sizewell is and has been stable for a couple of hundred years, unlike the surrounding area. The bigger problem currently is the impact of building in an environmentally-sensitive area

reohn2 wrote: ↑13 May 2023, 4:41pm The consequences of protesting in the UK since the Tories outlawed it,6 minutes of your time:- https://youtu.be/OrPou8tTZso

Is there the possibility that you could summarise the youtube vids that you link to? What it's about, by whom, etc would be a big help. I haven't looked at your link, but I'm sure that all of us will remember the fuel protests in 2000 that almost crippled the country.
In summary I think that measures can be entirely proportionate, but shouldn't be wheeled out at every opportunity, "Were we to yield to that pressure it would run counter to every democratic principle this country believes in, and what is more, if the government was to decide its policy on taxes in response to such behaviour, the credibility of economic policy vital to any country would be severely damaged and I will simply not allow that to happen." - Tony Blair 12/9/2000

Tim-b
It's about protesters being frightened off due to the fear of being fired from their job should they be prosecuted under new laws for protesting,the caller sights teachers,medical staff and other public service workers who would receive instant dismissal.
I've amended the thread tirtle to make it clearer what the link is about

2 important points - they've already decided that the entire workforce is disposable. Also, all the nuclear power plants will blow up when the rivers run dry / they get flooded. Oh dear.

I heard a story this morning on Radio 4 about tenants being evicted for complaining to landlords about things needing repairs to their homes,read a similar story in the media last week.
And worse still old folks in care homes being given notice when their children complained about their parents treatment,it sighted the case of a 92 year old lady with Parkinson's whose daughter complained because she was being neglected when she had a chest infection.
I'm not saying it's all landlords or all care home owners but surely it shouldn't be happening at all,it's yet another case of powerless people not being respected or treated properly by an element of people in power!

pete75 wrote: ↑14 May 2023, 12:26pm
From the same source. https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/cl ... -in-the-uk

You can stick your head in the sand over climate change but don't leave it there so long that you drown when the sea level rises.

I take MET Office predictions with a pinch of salt. For example.

This one blaming a dry July on climate change for example.

https://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2022/07/2 ... e-climate/

"Mark McCarthy continued: “Met Office climate change projections highlight an increasing trend towards hotter and drier summers for the UK,"

Meanwhile actual data shows no trend. In fact slightly wetter in recent decades.
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpre ... te-change/

irc wrote: ↑16 May 2023, 9:17am

pete75 wrote: ↑14 May 2023, 12:26pm
From the same source. https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/cl ... -in-the-uk

You can stick your head in the sand over climate change but don't leave it there so long that you drown when the sea level rises.

I take MET Office predictions with a pinch of salt. For example.

This one blaming a dry July on climate change for example.

https://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2022/07/2 ... e-climate/

"Mark McCarthy continued: “Met Office climate change projections highlight an increasing trend towards hotter and drier summers for the UK,"

Meanwhile actual data shows no trend. In fact slightly wetter in recent decades.

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https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpre ... te-change/

Does your source have comparable scientific experience to the MET office? What predictions does he (or she) make?

irc wrote: ↑16 May 2023, 9:17am

pete75 wrote: ↑14 May 2023, 12:26pm
From the same source. https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/cl ... -in-the-uk

You can stick your head in the sand over climate change but don't leave it there so long that you drown when the sea level rises.

I take MET Office predictions with a pinch of salt. For example.

This one blaming a dry July on climate change for example.

https://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2022/07/2 ... e-climate/

"Mark McCarthy continued: “Met Office climate change projections highlight an increasing trend towards hotter and drier summers for the UK,"

Meanwhile actual data shows no trend. In fact slightly wetter in recent decades.

England.gif

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpre ... te-change/

What you need to understand is that there is a difference between climate and weather.

tim-b wrote: ↑15 May 2023, 7:38am The site for Sizewell is and has been stable for a couple of hundred years, unlike the surrounding area. The bigger problem currently is the impact of building in an environmentally-sensitive area

But as you say, there's been a relatively recent 'massive acceleration' in climatic change.

At least as much of an issue as the local environment is the lack of nearby water supply.