Shoot dogs, help me?
- Philip Benstead
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Shoot dogs, help me?
Give me strength
.BBC News - Poplar: One million sign dog shooting petition against Met
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp6yx4zx9rzo
This show the level intellectual riger in the UK population?
.BBC News - Poplar: One million sign dog shooting petition against Met
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp6yx4zx9rzo
This show the level intellectual riger in the UK population?
Philip Benstead | Life Member Former CTC Councillor/Trustee
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Re: Shoot dogs, help me?
Rigor mortis in the case of the dogs, I guess.
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Re: Shoot dogs, help me?
Not sure what the proposition is here. Are you suggesting that a million people who signed a petition are deficient in some way?
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What I find difficult about the action of the Met is that there are humane ways to put a dog down and a bullet in the heat of the moment is not such a means.
A lot must depend on the circumstances but there a few aspects from what I've seen reported (which may be subject to reporting accuracies) that concern me and these days I have no trust in the Met and them investigating themselves.
(I wasn't aware of the petition and have not signed it)
Ian
A lot must depend on the circumstances but there a few aspects from what I've seen reported (which may be subject to reporting accuracies) that concern me and these days I have no trust in the Met and them investigating themselves.
(I wasn't aware of the petition and have not signed it)
Ian
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Yes, the reason why c1:70 members of the population have signed it might not be that they are all soppy about crazy dogs but that they are concerned about bullets being let fly in a densely populated urban area.
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Ditto. It’s sad to say that our confidence is UK policing is justifiably low. An acquaintance who severed a full career in my local force believes that it is now a poorly shadow of its former self; of course I’m still glad it’s there and we still have much to be thankful for but it’s yet another public service that’s only part of what it should be.Psamathe wrote: ↑22 May 2023, 10:38pm What I find difficult about the action of the Met is that there are humane ways to put a dog down and a bullet in the heat of the moment is not such a means.
A lot must depend on the circumstances but there a few aspects from what I've seen reported (which may be subject to reporting accuracies) that concern me and these days I have no trust in the Met and them investigating themselves.
(I wasn't aware of the petition and have not signed it)
Ian
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Don’t fret, it’s OK to: ride a simple old bike; ride slowly, walk, rest and admire the view; ride off-road; ride in your raincoat; ride by yourself; ride in the dark; and ride one hundred yards or one hundred miles. Your bike and your choices to suit you.
Re: Shoot dogs, help me?
"The police watchdog has launched an investigation"
We'll always be together, together on electric bikes.
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Re: Shoot dogs, help me?
I've found three petitions, the first has > 1M signatures:
https://www.change.org/p/hold-the-met-p ... ashed-dogs
https://www.change.org/p/justice-for-th ... ets-london
https://www.change.org/p/two-dogs-unlaw ... -limehouse
and two videos:
https://twitter.com/mariaalcoptia/statu ... 85025?s=20
https://twitter.com/broseph_stalin/stat ... 63212?s=20
Jonathan
https://www.change.org/p/hold-the-met-p ... ashed-dogs
https://www.change.org/p/justice-for-th ... ets-london
https://www.change.org/p/two-dogs-unlaw ... -limehouse
and two videos:
https://twitter.com/mariaalcoptia/statu ... 85025?s=20
https://twitter.com/broseph_stalin/stat ... 63212?s=20
Jonathan
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Re: Shoot dogs, help me?
The videos make for awful viewing.
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1st video (or rather 1st I opened beggars belief. I can't see justification, particularly given the positioning of people and given they have the special device to loop round dog's neck at distance. Dirty Harry is alive in the UK.Jdsk wrote: ↑23 May 2023, 11:03am I've found three petitions, the first has > 1M signatures:
https://www.change.org/p/hold-the-met-p ... ashed-dogs
https://www.change.org/p/justice-for-th ... ets-london
https://www.change.org/p/two-dogs-unlaw ... -limehouse
and two videos:
https://twitter.com/mariaalcoptia/statu ... 85025?s=20
https://twitter.com/broseph_stalin/stat ... 63212?s=20
Jonathan
So now we have gun crazed "royal enforcers".
Ian
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Re: Shoot dogs, help me?
It just seems like an awful episode with needless escalation and sad outcomes.
- Philip Benstead
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Re: Shoot dogs, help me?
IMHO
The petition is nothing about the shooting of the dogs.
Its general complaint about the reduction in standard of the Metropolitan Police Service.
I accept the police could had handled this incident better; better training may be needed.
But my point is over 1,000,000 sign it assuming it was about dogs being shoot, have sense of perspective.
Did they sign a petition about?
Child abuse by the church,
river pollution
car driver knocking people down.
corruption/incompetence in government and local authorities.
The petition is nothing about the shooting of the dogs.
Its general complaint about the reduction in standard of the Metropolitan Police Service.
I accept the police could had handled this incident better; better training may be needed.
But my point is over 1,000,000 sign it assuming it was about dogs being shoot, have sense of perspective.
Did they sign a petition about?
Child abuse by the church,
river pollution
car driver knocking people down.
corruption/incompetence in government and local authorities.
Philip Benstead | Life Member Former CTC Councillor/Trustee
Organizing events and representing cyclists' in southeast since 1988
Bikeability Instructor/Mechanic
Organizing events and representing cyclists' in southeast since 1988
Bikeability Instructor/Mechanic
Re: Shoot dogs, help me?
Just take guns away from people who go around shooting dogs in public. Simples.Philip Benstead wrote: ↑23 May 2023, 1:39pm ...
I accept the police could had handled this incident better; better training may be needed.
...
Ian
Re: Shoot dogs, help me?
Whataboutery:Philip Benstead wrote: ↑23 May 2023, 1:39pm IMHO
The petition is nothing about the shooting of the dogs.
Its general complaint about the reduction in standard of the Metropolitan Police Service.
I accept the police could had handled this incident better; better training may be needed.
But my point is over 1,000,000 sign it assuming it was about dogs being shoot, have sense of perspective.
Did they sign a petition about?
Child abuse by the church,
river pollution
car driver knocking people down.
corruption/incompetence in government and local authorities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
Jonathan
PS: On the subject of intellectual rigour: did you read the petition and watch the videos before starting this thread? Thanks.