peetee wrote: ↑31 May 2023, 7:34pm
Now hold on just a gosh-darn minute. The Polo is a small car, maybe not ‘tiny’, but definitely small. Mine happens to be twenty years old so is not the latest, larger version.
Some earlier versions were smaller, but still "supermini" and not in the small class.
If you'd like examples of a small car, wikipedia lists "Fiat Panda, Fiat 500, Toyota Aygo, Renault Twingo, Volkswagen Up!, Hyundai i10, Kia Picanto, Peugeot 108, Citroën C1 and Suzuki Ignis" as 2020's best-sellers.
TrevA wrote: ↑31 May 2023, 10:22pm
I managed to get my Trek Domane in the back of my VW Up. Had to take the front wheel out and there were no racks or mudguards but it fitted, and it’s a 58cm frame. You can’t argue that an Up is not a small car. A lot depends on whether the car has a sloping rear screen. Most of my small cars have had near vertical rear screens.
Thanks. Do you have any pictures of the example? Was that on the back seat, or with the seats folded? If folded, I guess along the car length because otherwise the rear screen wouldn't matter. And how close was the fit? My usual frame is 62cm c-c. Could you get a second bike in there?
I suspect you are correct about the slope of the rear screen. The rear screen slope of my "supermini" class car even causes problems for standing a folding bike in the back with rear seats up: the rear shelf has to be dropped and the saddle hits the window unless the seat post is removed!