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Planning on riding the KAW for a second time this week, once again passing Stonehenge around the solstice.

Last time I avoided the stones as I was passing evening of 20th, this week likely to be morning of 22nd, the day after the actual solstice.

I’ve found a list of byway closures in force all week for ‘vehicles’. I’m sure the optional KAW route past the stones will be on one of these.

Question: Can we push our ‘vehicles’ past or is a jobsworth in a high viz jacket going to gleefully spoil our ride?

Thanks for any legal input..

Closures:

https://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news ... -solstice/

Albatross787 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2023, 9:28am[snip]
Question: Can we push our ‘vehicles’ past or is a jobsworth in a high viz jacket going to gleefully spoil our ride?

Thanks for any legal input..

Closures:

https://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news ... -solstice/

I think the High Druid recruits the offerings to old gods from people foolish enough to
try to pass during the high holy days. Look out for people with pikes and obsidian knives.

In the UK, bicycles are considered vehicles under the Road Traffic Act of 1988 and as the link you've provided says 'Wiltshire Council has made orders to temporarily close to all vehicles, . . . . etc:' by definition this therefore includes bicycles. So yes, you are very likely to be stopped. However, I think I'd be more concerned about the who am I sharing the roads with. After all the hippies have partied since dawn & then during the day and into the night, image what wrecks you're likely to encounter the next morning. IF you stick to the byways I doubt you'll meet any. On the road with all those ancient camper vans. I'd give those roads on a miss thank you

On one occasion we tandemed to the Morrisons cafe in Glastonbury for breakfast on the solstice. Mrs RJB was entertained by a young lady who informed her she had ridden up from Cornwall to Stonehenge on her partners motorbike and we're now on their way home after being married by a White Witch. They tucked into their wedding breakfast. So be careful you don't want to be hitched to your bike.

Oh for times like these again. Not a motor vehicle in sight.

Albatross787 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2023, 9:28am Planning on riding the KAW for a second time this week, once again passing Stonehenge around the solstice.

Last time I avoided the stones as I was passing evening of 20th, this week likely to be morning of 22nd, the day after the actual solstice.

I’ve found a list of byway closures in force all week for ‘vehicles’. I’m sure the optional KAW route past the stones will be on one of these.

Question: Can we push our ‘vehicles’ past or is a jobsworth in a high viz jacket going to gleefully spoil our ride?

Thanks for any legal input..

Closures:

https://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news ... -solstice/

Sorry, just read this - we only became aware of these closures via a post on the Facebook group on Thursday/Friday - re requested an explanation from the council on Friday and that discussion has been ongoing with a formal complaints process now started. Obviously too late to resolve it for this year. We are yet to have a formal explanation for the closure being applied to ‘all vehicles’ (particularly when it closed both a national trail and section of NCN for bikes, but not horses or pedestrians) but my belief (reinforced by some of the responses we have had from council staff over this) is that this was inadvertent and not their intention…

Regards whether you can still push - slightly grey area on this, but the caselaw would seem to suggest that yes, this would be permissible.

rjb wrote: ↑19 Jun 2023, 10:56am Oh for times like these again. Not a motor vehicle in sight.

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When the tunnel is complete it should be like this once again…

Zulu Eleven wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 3:08pm

rjb wrote: ↑19 Jun 2023, 10:56am Oh for times like these again. Not a motor vehicle in sight.

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When the tunnel is complete it should be like this once again…

Last i heard its back on the drawing board again. Despite Grant Shapps having approved it in 2022 a judicial review had the judge throw it out as an unlawful decision. The tunnel will be like the Kingston Seymour cycle crossing of the river Yeo at Tutshill Sluice. We've been waiting over 35 years and its still not ready. search.php?keywords=tutshill

rjb wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 5:04pm Last i heard its back on the drawing board again. Despite Grant Shapps having approved it in 2022 a judicial review had the judge throw it out as an unlawful decision. The tunnel will be like the Kingston Seymour cycle crossing of the river Yeo at Tutshill Sluice. We've been waiting over 35 years and its still not ready. search.php?keywords=tutshill

Nothing quite like kicking the can down the road, is there? Seems to be a common theme across several areas of govt policy recently.

rjb wrote: ↑19 Jun 2023, 10:56am Oh for times like these again. Not a motor vehicle in sight.

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Wonderful scenes, rjb. Any info behind them? Dates? I'm guessing the top one is around 1910 and the lower maybe 1930s – or is it later? Stories – family photos?

Bmblbzzz wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 5:45pm

rjb wrote: ↑19 Jun 2023, 10:56am Oh for times like these again. Not a motor vehicle in sight.

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Wonderful scenes, rjb. Any info behind them? Dates? I'm guessing the top one is around 1910 and the lower maybe 1930s – or is it later? Stories – family photos?

i would put the lower image as 1950's based on the condition of the stones which looks to be after the last 'renovation'

I live about 5 miles away. A few years ago myself and mate were riding these tracks not long after they closed one of the side roads for good and moved stonehenge entrance to a new visitor centre, some busy body told us (incorrectly as it transpired) that the track was part of the stonehenge site and we could not cycle on it. In front of the busy body we lifted our bikes over the fence and waved goodbye cycling in the adjacent field.

foxyrider wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 10:06pm

Bmblbzzz wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 5:45pm

rjb wrote: ↑19 Jun 2023, 10:56am Oh for times like these again. Not a motor vehicle in sight.

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Wonderful scenes, rjb. Any info behind them? Dates? I'm guessing the top one is around 1910 and the lower maybe 1930s – or is it later? Stories – family photos?

i would put the lower image as 1950's based on the condition of the stones which looks to be after the last 'renovation'

I agree with the 1950’s as they a dressed very similar to my mam & dad with their tandem.