Could you not keep the forks- is it a aheadset/ midfork eyelet thing? How about keeping the forks, opting of an elegant nitto stem, and perhaps a porter rack attaching to the mudguard eyelets, center crown mount and perhaps the brake bosses?markjohnobrien wrote: ↑26 Jun 2023, 6:27pmThat purple one is lovelygregoryoftours wrote: ↑25 Jun 2023, 9:47pm Here are some befores: IMG_20230612_112858.jpgIMG_20230612_113027.jpg
The afters will probably be ages if my past projects are anything to go by. It seems a real shame but all of the purple stuff will go, including the fork and lovely stem.
It will end up something like this:DSC01184.JPGDSC00930.JPG
Does anyone here customize their bike
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Re: Does anyone here customize their bike
I love customising, building and tinkering probably more than I do cycling. I've building 3 bikes so far, 2 mountain bikes and the latest is a 26er gravel bike, or as I like to call it, "Adventure bike", see attached (actually not see attached because I can't attach anything for some reason) 
I can build a bike dirt cheap using mainly second hand bits.
I can build a bike dirt cheap using mainly second hand bits.
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I'd like to but it's just not practical for what I want to do. I need a long stem for a backswept Jones bar, must also be 31.8 clamp with removable faceplate for the same bar. Cannot find all of this in a quill stem, so it would have to be an ahead stem with adapter.cycle tramp wrote: ↑26 Jun 2023, 11:20pmCould you not keep the forks- is it a aheadset/ midfork eyelet thing? How about keeping the forks, opting of an elegant nitto stem, and perhaps a porter rack attaching to the mudguard eyelets, center crown mount and perhaps the brake bosses?markjohnobrien wrote: ↑26 Jun 2023, 6:27pmThat purple one is lovelygregoryoftours wrote: ↑25 Jun 2023, 9:47pm Here are some befores: IMG_20230612_112858.jpgIMG_20230612_113027.jpg
The afters will probably be ages if my past projects are anything to go by. It seems a real shame but all of the purple stuff will go, including the fork and lovely stem.
It will end up something like this:DSC01184.JPGDSC00930.JPG
I like the bars much higher than they are currently, and I haven't seen a quill converter with enough height gain (being quill a high one would also be flexy, especially with wide bars, and I'd worry about metal fatigue in the long term).
And yes, I use a Surly threadless fork with mid mounts because I want the strength/rigidity and pannier position of tubus Tara rack. I prefer the threadless headset standard for its strength, lack of flex and ease of turning bars (I use a locking headset spacer below the stem).
I wouldn't like to be repeatedly turning the bars on a quill setup because the bolt torque for the wedge is necessarily much higher. Maybe I should get my surly fork sprayed metallic purple!
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Yes they are. I'm still confused.
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531Colin... has your post been removed and did you get an explanation? - I've just fired off a message about the posts removal
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Following the removal of 531Colins post from this thread I will not be adding any more comments to it.
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Re: Does anyone here customize their bike
Yes, it was a comment about coloured bolts being obviously more important than having the forks the right way round.
I wonder if it would have been removed if the OP didn’t have a disability?
By the way, I’m not too distressed about my post being removed, but the general dumbing down which has happened over the last several years is disappointing
I wonder if it would have been removed if the OP didn’t have a disability?
By the way, I’m not too distressed about my post being removed, but the general dumbing down which has happened over the last several years is disappointing
Bike fitting D.I.Y. .....http://wheel-easy.org.uk/wp-content/upl ... -2017a.pdf
Tracks in the Dales etc...http://www.flickr.com/photos/52358536@N06/collections/
Remember, anything you do (or don't do) to your bike can have safety implications
Tracks in the Dales etc...http://www.flickr.com/photos/52358536@N06/collections/
Remember, anything you do (or don't do) to your bike can have safety implications
Re: Does anyone here customize their bike
I have replied to admin as posting here was pointless so I gave up531colin wrote: ↑28 Jun 2023, 5:04pm Yes, it was a comment about coloured bolts being obviously more important than having the forks the right way round.
I wonder if it would have been removed if the OP didn’t have a disability?
By the way, I’m not too distressed about my post being removed, but the general dumbing down which has happened over the last several years is disappointing
Do not patronize me
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Sent to Admin
Sent: 28 Jun 2023, 6:22pm
by Pinhead
It is amazing (Oh and thank you) that people do not READ what I said
I was working on the bikes
I undid ALL the headset/stem and riser bolts so that the handlebars and suspension could rotate freely FROM each other so that I could sit on the ground and work on the "chain side and rotate the forks to clean them without getting up
When finished I re aligned the handlebars and forks
It was temporary
As you know when you undo all the bolts the handlebars and suspension rotate totally separately

I gave up bothering to explain
I did say [i][b]"Actually It is the right way I just turned the lot 180 to get to the pinhead locks"[/b][/i] on page 2, then I didn't say all rotated back and locked down, sheesh...........
Now please give it a rest
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Sent: 28 Jun 2023, 6:22pm
by Pinhead
It is amazing (Oh and thank you) that people do not READ what I said
I was working on the bikes
I undid ALL the headset/stem and riser bolts so that the handlebars and suspension could rotate freely FROM each other so that I could sit on the ground and work on the "chain side and rotate the forks to clean them without getting up
When finished I re aligned the handlebars and forks
It was temporary
As you know when you undo all the bolts the handlebars and suspension rotate totally separately
I gave up bothering to explain
I did say [i][b]"Actually It is the right way I just turned the lot 180 to get to the pinhead locks"[/b][/i] on page 2, then I didn't say all rotated back and locked down, sheesh...........
Now please give it a rest
[attachment=0]Img_1541.jpg[/attachment][attachment=1]Img_1540.jpg[/attachment]
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Re: Does anyone here customize their bike
Pinhead wrote: ↑28 Jun 2023, 6:25pm Sent to Admin
Sent: 28 Jun 2023, 6:22pm
by Pinhead
It is amazing (Oh and thank you) that people do not READ what I said
I was working on the bikes
I undid ALL the headset/stem and riser bolts so that the handlebars and suspension could rotate freely FROM each other so that I could sit on the ground and work on the "chain side and rotate the forks to clean them without getting up
When finished I re aligned the handlebars and forks
It was temporary
As you know when you undo all the bolts the handlebars and suspension rotate totally separately![]()
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I gave up bothering to explain
In future i will go into raptures about things to make it simple for people to understand
Now please give it a rest
Img_1541.jpgImg_1540.jpg
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Re: Does anyone here customize their bike
OK I will try not to waste any more of your valuable time
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Tracks in the Dales etc...http://www.flickr.com/photos/52358536@N06/collections/
Remember, anything you do (or don't do) to your bike can have safety implications
Tracks in the Dales etc...http://www.flickr.com/photos/52358536@N06/collections/
Remember, anything you do (or don't do) to your bike can have safety implications
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Re: Does anyone here customize their bike
That's fair enough and I don't think anyone set out to patronise you but you've got to understand that if you'e going to post a picture of your bikes midway through some repairs without an initial explanation of it, people are not going to pick up on the customisation, they're going to point out the obvious issue of the forks being the wrong way around. No-one meant it harshly - it's potentially a fairly major safety issue!
If you're going to present your bike for comment, unlock it from its storage, set it up as you ride it and take a photo against a plain-ish background to show it off properly - that way you'll avoid any confusion and get proper comments on it.
eg

(not mine, but a nicely presented custom build touring bike)
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It seems a shame when good and well meant advice is set aside … and allowance should be made for direct speaking Yorkshiremen too, it’s cultural
Don’t fret, it’s OK to: ride a simple old bike; ride slowly, walk, rest and admire the view; ride off-road; ride in your raincoat; ride by yourself; ride in the dark; and ride one hundred yards or one hundred miles. Your bike and your choices to suit you.
Re: Does anyone here customize their bike
When you are messing about with safety critical stuff and I doubt that you fully understand what you are doing, you want me to just ignore it?
For example, do you have a locking spacer between the headset top race and the stem? If not, did you check headset adjustment after turning the bars?
What torque did you tighten to ?
Replacing safety critical bolts you need to check corrosion resistance and tensile strength.
Bike fitting D.I.Y. .....http://wheel-easy.org.uk/wp-content/upl ... -2017a.pdf
Tracks in the Dales etc...http://www.flickr.com/photos/52358536@N06/collections/
Remember, anything you do (or don't do) to your bike can have safety implications
Tracks in the Dales etc...http://www.flickr.com/photos/52358536@N06/collections/
Remember, anything you do (or don't do) to your bike can have safety implications
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Re: Does anyone here customize their bike
Your input is really appreciated and vital to this forum and I’ve always loved your expert comments (as the designer) of some of the Spa frames and kit.
I agree that, sadly, this forum has dumbed down and your expert advice is a corrective to this trend.
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