From experience I have found a pure-bred Lancastrian is far better at that job.Carlton green wrote: ↑28 Jun 2023, 10:30pm … and allowance should be made for direct speaking Yorkshiremen too, it’s cultural.
I’ll get me t’ hat.
From experience I have found a pure-bred Lancastrian is far better at that job.Carlton green wrote: ↑28 Jun 2023, 10:30pm … and allowance should be made for direct speaking Yorkshiremen too, it’s cultural.
warey4life wrote: ↑7 Aug 2023, 3:03pm Here are two I've customised, or should I say rebuilt. The MTB has a frame from an old Pace MTB and the Gravel bike has a frame from a cheapo early 2000s Saracen Rufftrax. I've recently bought a tired old Penine hand built road bike which I plan to strip down, get shot blasted and powder coated and then rebuild.
Why is there anything wrong with that?!
At this stage, I think customisation will mean different things to different people... for me, growing up surrounded by magazine like Hot Rod UK, Back Street Heroes and Chrome & Flames, customisation to me means the creation of a single vision, outside of that the manufacturer has envisaged..rareposter wrote: ↑14 Aug 2023, 6:42pm
To me, customisation implies an aesthetic change such as coloured valve caps or bar tape - little tweaks that make the bike stand out a bit but don't actually alter the performance. Otherwise it's better described as an upgrade; you've changed one or more components for better (stronger / stiffer / lighter / more aero / better fitting) parts.
..that would have been great in a magazine write up...rareposter wrote: ↑14 Aug 2023, 6:42pm
No-one says they've "upgraded" their bike with mudguards, similarly no-one claims it's a custom bike just because it's got a rack fitted. The equivalent of fitting a towbar to a car; that's not an upgrade, it's just a functional accessory.
Did I say (where did say it) that there was anything wrong with that I was sim ply answering a poster here !rareposter wrote: ↑14 Aug 2023, 6:42pmWhy is there anything wrong with that?!
My most recent road bike purchase, I rode in "as supplied" condition for months - there was no need to upgrade or customise anything. I upgraded the wheels after a while, more because I got an excellent deal on some carbon wheels than because it "needed" them but I've still got the original wheels and could pop them back on and return the bike to factory spec in minutes.
I'd argue that's not really "customisation" anyway, it's simply an upgrade.
To me, customisation implies an aesthetic change such as coloured valve caps or bar tape - little tweaks that make the bike stand out a bit but don't actually alter the performance. Otherwise it's better described as an upgrade; you've changed one or more components for better (stronger / stiffer / lighter / more aero / better fitting) parts.
And some stuff such as fitting racks or mudguards or a bell is none of the above, it's just "fitting racks and mudguards". No-one says they've "upgraded" their bike with mudguards, similarly no-one claims it's a custom bike just because it's got a rack fitted. The equivalent of fitting a towbar to a car; that's not an upgrade, it's just a functional accessory.
I didn't ask about upgrades I said Customisationrareposter wrote: ↑14 Aug 2023, 6:42pmW
To me, customisation implies an aesthetic change such as coloured valve caps or bar tape - little tweaks that make the bike stand out a bit but don't actually alter the performance. Otherwise it's better described as an upgrade; you've changed one or more components for better (stronger / stiffer / lighter / more aero / better fitting) parts.
Not bored at all, was just trying to clarify what was already a very broad topic and has, over the previous 7 pages, included (depending on your exact definition of the words) upgrades and customisation. As well as a fair degree of confusion over why you were taking pictures of your bikes with the forks the wrong way around...