How do you use this cycle rack?

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SummitFreedom
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How do you use this cycle rack?

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How do you use it?
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Either the front or back wheel is pushed into the wheel holders on the frame.
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Officially, you push the wheel into the "butterfly wings" and lock the wheel to the "wings".
In the real world, its a "wheel bender"** and I would avoid it, unless I could lean the bike up against the side and lock it to the side.

** an accidental or deliberate push will knock the bike over and bend your wheel
Bike fitting D.I.Y. .....http://wheel-easy.org.uk/wp-content/upl ... -2017a.pdf
Tracks in the Dales etc...http://www.flickr.com/photos/52358536@N06/collections/
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531colin wrote: 1 Jul 2023, 8:44am Officially, you push the wheel into the "butterfly wings" and lock the wheel to the "wings".
In the real world, its a "wheel bender"** and I would avoid it, unless I could lean the bike up against the side and lock it to the side.

** an accidental or deliberate push will knock the bike over and bend your wheel
Oh thanks. This explains why whoever owns this cycle chose not to use the wings.

Any other public cycle securing I should be wary of? How about this one outside McDonald's?
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I think it's more likely that they put the bike there because there is a more substantial, and secure bar to lock their bike to.

Personally I try never to use public bike stands. Not so much because the bike may get pushed over and damage the wheel, but because there are a lot of careless and cack-handed people out there that could scratch the paint/damage the rear derailleur on my bike when they literally shove theirs into the stand, or pile their bike on top of another one! A wall away from the hordes, where I can see it and am close to it is my preference.
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SummitFreedom wrote: 1 Jul 2023, 9:21am ............. How about this one outside McDonald's?
What do you think? Whats the difference between the two stands?
Why not go and look at the real thing, instead of looking at a screen?
Bike fitting D.I.Y. .....http://wheel-easy.org.uk/wp-content/upl ... -2017a.pdf
Tracks in the Dales etc...http://www.flickr.com/photos/52358536@N06/collections/
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The other issue with bike stands is the importance of locking the frame and not just the wheels. In the McDonalds example, I'd ignore the stands and hang one side of my handlebars over the fence. That would allow me to lock the frame to a fence post, while avoiding the stress on the front wheel that would be caused by supporting the bike by it in the rack.
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I've yet to see a bike rack I would use out of choice.

Anything that touches the frame is going to chip & scratch the paint, and anything that holds the wheel risks buckling it. The newest design I've seen, on a train, consists of a vertical flat plate with a pedal spindle sized slot in the top edge, anyone who loses their balance and falls on the bike is liable to bend or break the spindle or crank.

I won't normally settle for anything less than leaning against a fence or wall with four points of contact: two wheels, the bars, and saddle or pannier, and I'll walk quite a long way out of my way to find it.
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BEWARE

Most things like this ate privately or council owned and you have NO right to padlock a bike to them and the owners are 100% in the RIGHT to and DO cut locks
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The "Railing" the bike has been attached to is NOT a bike rack and I KNOW of two councils who cut the locks

This includes all street furniture, lamp posts, railings, hand rails etc

Whilst it would be rare for bikes to be cut free by the Council IT DOES happen
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Pinhead wrote: 1 Jul 2023, 7:40pm The "Railing" the bike has been attached to is NOT a bike rack and I KNOW of two councils who cut the locks

This includes all street furniture, lamp posts, railings, hand rails etc

Whilst it would be rare for bikes to be cut free by the Council IT DOES happen
At a McDonalds near me it looks as though the staff lock their bikes to the fencing (or whatever it’s called) and everyone seems to rub along quite nicely.
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531colin wrote: 1 Jul 2023, 10:07am
SummitFreedom wrote: 1 Jul 2023, 9:21am ............. How about this one outside McDonald's?
What do you think? Whats the difference between the two stands?
Why not go and look at the real thing, instead of looking at a screen?
....I've been to that McDonald's hundreds of time in my life. It's my local one. I've never paid attention to the bike thing because I didn't have a bike. Now I do.
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axel_knutt wrote: 1 Jul 2023, 7:25pm I've yet to see a bike rack I would use out of choice.

Anything that touches the frame is going to chip & scratch the paint, and anything that holds the wheel risks buckling it. The newest design I've seen, on a train, consists of a vertical flat plate with a pedal spindle sized slot in the top edge, anyone who loses their balance and falls on the bike is liable to bend or break the spindle or crank.

I won't normally settle for anything less than leaning against a fence or wall with four points of contact: two wheels, the bars, and saddle or pannier, and I'll walk quite a long way out of my way to find it.
In my local town, these railings are used all the time by people to secure their bikes with a d lock. Wouldn't it damage the paint on the bike when you move your cycle up against it and get it into position against the... Whatever it's called?
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Pinhead wrote: 1 Jul 2023, 7:39pm BEWARE

Most things like this ate privately or council owned and you have NO right to padlock a bike to them and the owners are 100% in the RIGHT to and DO cut locks

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😂 that's McDonald's. You can most certainly secure your bike on those stands if you so wish.
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keyboardmonkey wrote: 1 Jul 2023, 8:41pm
Pinhead wrote: 1 Jul 2023, 7:40pm The "Railing" the bike has been attached to is NOT a bike rack and I KNOW of two councils who cut the locks

This includes all street furniture, lamp posts, railings, hand rails etc

Whilst it would be rare for bikes to be cut free by the Council IT DOES happen
At a McDonalds near me it looks as though the staff lock their bikes to the fencing (or whatever it’s called) and everyone seems to rub along quite nicely.
Same thing at my local McDonald's. Except not staff, but customers. No one wants to use the bike stand I've provided a screenshot of.
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