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Re: The joy of three speed riding

Posted: 24 Jul 2023, 2:09pm
by comfortablynumb
Biospace wrote: 21 Jul 2023, 1:29pm A traditional 3sp SA bike could work very well in combination with a front hub motor. Has anyone here tried this?
I have this this setup on my Gocycle G4 albeit with a Nexus rather than SA hub. Really like it.
Steve.

Re: The joy of three speed riding

Posted: 27 Jul 2023, 10:25am
by Carlton green
Biospace wrote: 18 Jul 2023, 10:04am The point has been briefly mentioned in this topic, that typically a bike with a SA 3sp will be a one which is highly practical and designed for easy use, with laid back geometries, longevity, sensible handlebars, perhaps an older style and highly effective bell, a chainguard and paint finish which is durable.

The sort of bike which will invariably work no matter how long it's been sandwiched behind others at the back of your storage space, or even if left out in all weathers if the chain is fully-enclosed. There's little chance of it attracting the eyes of thieves, even if left for days in a public place with the most minimal lock. These are qualities which are often overlooked, but possibly more important than we believe.
I’m suspecting that those bikes with fully enclosed chain-cases are easier peddling or faster too. How can that be? Well, their chains probably stay clean and don’t loose their oil whereas on other bikes it’s easy enough to forget to clean and oil your chain, and when you do get around to it it’s ‘noticeable’ what a difference a clean and well (sae 20 works for me) lubricated chain can make. Don’t ask me how I know 😉.

Re: The joy of three speed riding

Posted: 27 Jul 2023, 2:05pm
by jimlews
Carlton green wrote: 27 Jul 2023, 10:25am
Biospace wrote: 18 Jul 2023, 10:04am The point has been briefly mentioned in this topic, that typically a bike with a SA 3sp will be a one which is highly practical and designed for easy use, with laid back geometries, longevity, sensible handlebars, perhaps an older style and highly effective bell, a chainguard and paint finish which is durable.

The sort of bike which will invariably work no matter how long it's been sandwiched behind others at the back of your storage space, or even if left out in all weathers if the chain is fully-enclosed. There's little chance of it attracting the eyes of thieves, even if left for days in a public place with the most minimal lock. These are qualities which are often overlooked, but possibly more important than we believe.
I’m suspecting that those bikes with fully enclosed chain-cases are easier peddling or faster too. How can that be? Well, their chains probably stay clean and don’t loose their oil whereas on other bikes it’s easy enough to forget to clean and oil your chain, and when you do get around to it it’s ‘noticeable’ what a difference a clean and well (sae 20 works for me) lubricated chain can make. Don’t ask me how I know 😉.

The first solo crossing of Iceland was by Horace Dhall riding (but mostly pushing, I suspect) a Raleigh cycle equipped with a three speed Sturmey Archer and full chain case. That was in 1933.

Horace's achievement has previously been mentioned on one of Carlton's posts.
However, the search facility on this site does not seem up to the job of finding it !

Re: The joy of three speed riding

Posted: 27 Jul 2023, 3:04pm
by Biospace
jimlews wrote: 27 Jul 2023, 2:05pm The first solo crossing of Iceland was by Horace Dhall riding (but mostly pushing, I suspect) a Raleigh cycle equipped with a three speed Sturmey Archer and full chain case. That was in 1933.

Horace's achievement has previously been mentioned on one of Carlton's posts.
However, the search facility on this site does not seem up to the job of finding it !
About 1 mile in 5 was ridden, according to https://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//fu ... 7.000.html

Here's CG's post, viewtopic.php?p=1684871#p1684871

Horace Dall Iceland astronomy expedition 1933.jpeg

Re: The joy of three speed riding

Posted: 27 Jul 2023, 5:47pm
by jimlews
Thanks "Biospace" that's the one.

Horace Dall ( no aitch)
A remarkable man.

Re: The joy of three speed riding

Posted: 6 Aug 2023, 7:03am
by SST
Nostalgia. When I finally got the bike I wanted as a kid, it had a 3-speed SA hub. Then came the era of racing bikes with double chain rings, you name it. A few decades hence I bought a Brompton... 3-speed. After having ridden a 6-speed for some 20k, I remember the continuous shifting... left up, right up, left down, left up... And so I never questioned the decision for the simple 3-speed.