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my "Campagnolo Record 8sp" hubs

hi
I found New Old Stock hubs kit, which on Velobase they are called "Campagnolo Record 8sp", see here

• The rear hub looks similar to the Chorus hub, the small circular plate on the non-drive side of the Record hub is polished, but burnished on the Chorus hub;
• The front hub looks different from the "Campagnolo Chorus HB-00CH" front hub; both use spheres and cones, which can be completely dismantled for maintenance, but the dustcaps and the release skewer are different.

Otherwise, mid-'90s Chorus and Record hubs are somehow identical, I meand that if you look at the "spare parts" pdfs available directly from the Camapagnolo website, you'll find that Chorus hubs used Record parts internally: that suggests me that they're functionally identical.

Anyway, I also have a brand new "Campagnolo Chorus HB-00CH" on hands, so I have two choices

• A) "Campagnolo Record 8sp/front hub" as front hub, paired with a "Campagnolo Record 8sp/rear hub" as rear hub
• B) "Campagnolo Chorus HB-00CH" as front hub, paired with a "Campagnolo Record 8sp/rear hub" as rear hub, both with Rercord skewers

Talking about rims, I have two choices:

• H+Son's Archetype, 36H, polished, medium profile=23mm, probably more suitable for my use)
• H+Son's TB14, 36H, polished, low profile=14mm.. too low?
• ... ?

My usage profile is:

• for regular training, ~40-50Km per day
• for occasional long trips max 160-180 km on weekends
• asphalted roads, never dirt roads or anything else with stones, mud or water.
• slight road stress
• few climbs, mostly flat, so I'm not very interested in the "weight" issue
• I would like to favor comfort over performance (medium profile = greater inertia and stability)
• average speed 32km/h, maximum speed 50km/h
• a lot of curved trajectories (that's why cone and ball hubs, rather than sealed bearings)
• possible routes with cross wind (that's why not high profile, but medium profile)
• I am not a professional, I have competitive interests.
• my weight is 67Kg, which the frame of my bike distributes, 55% on the rear wheel, 45% on the front wheel

(Campagnolo Chorus skewers)
(Campagnolo Record skewers)

Archetype rims, by H+Son

The "Archetype" rims produced by "H+Son" are advertised as "G609 alloy", which I can't find in the literature, so I don't really understand what type of aluminum alloy the model is made of; anyway what I really like is the slightly pronounced profile resists torsion better and is also more robust vertically.

Also they are not too aero, and being 36 holes without doing radial spoking with just a few spokes that is so fashionable today, so they should be aesthetically acceptable on record/8sp hubs from the very early 90s (mine are from 1991)

Any experience with the Archetype rims? What do you think?

Alternative rims

As alternative rims, I found a pair of NOS Campagnolo Seoul88 rims, review here on Velobase.

I cannot find information on any Campagnolo catalogue. There is nothing about Seoul88 rims. They look high quality and very similar to "Omega", probably because the names were changed in '96 to in honor of the Olympic year, so ...

• the tubular Omega V became the Seoul '88 <------------- found a pair, NOS
• the tubular Omega 20 became the Los Angeles '84
• the clincher Omega V became the Mosva '80
• the clincher Omega 19 became the Montreal '76
• the clincher Omega 20 became the Munich '72

(my speculation, I am not 100% sure)

What worries me is: in the end I would pay (70 euro each) for rims produced in 1988 and kept in a warehouse for over 30 years exactly as much as I would for rims produced in 2020

Archetype rims......viewtopic.php?p=1796188&hilit=archetype#p1796188

DiTBho wrote: ↑15 Sep 2023, 12:46pm

Talking about rims, I have two choices:

• H+Son's Archetype, 36H, polished, medium profile=23mm, probably more suitable for my use)
• H+Son's TB14, 36H, polished, low profile=14mm.. too low?
• ... Kinlin ADHN

Look at option no. 3

Kinlin ADHN vs H+Son's Archetype
pros/cons

I have to carefully evaluate this thing!
As well as I need to carefully evaluate if replacing the front C-Record hub with a Chrous hub.

Perplexed.

Anyway, the Kinlin ADHN rims are wider than H+Son's Archetype's.
That's not optimal, as I like 23/tyres

Spokes, different spokes for different folks for different uses

bladed spokes?
Use bladed spokes to reduce weight and control high tension wind-up for high performance applications. Bladed spokes will contribute to slightly lower lateral stiffness due to less cross sectional area in the lateral plane.

Other? Mumble ...