*** The AI Thread *** Risks, Threats, Political Action

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the snail wrote: 21 Jan 2024, 11:27am Meanwhile, an outbreak of honesty from an AI chatbot
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... cises-firm
Haha, when the underlying model is trained on a large pool of data which will inevitably include rants off reddit or something about delivery firms including dpd!

Huge amount of the risks regarding LLMs and the like are a standard garbage in garbage out problem just like any other automation before it.
Cugel wrote: 21 Jan 2024, 2:33pm why do you think such gestures have any utility at all in this issue?
Well it's not like other regulatory standards, e.g. on H&S or data protection haven't had utility, this is much the same. Much like data protection it's not going to stop people operating outside the regulatory environment but it can provide a regulated market which major 'reputable' companies will be forced to operate within.
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Stevek76 wrote: 22 Jan 2024, 1:36pm
the snail wrote: 21 Jan 2024, 11:27am Meanwhile, an outbreak of honesty from an AI chatbot
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... cises-firm
Haha, when the underlying model is trained on a large pool of data which will inevitably include rants off reddit or something about delivery firms including dpd!

Huge amount of the risks regarding LLMs and the like are a standard garbage in garbage out problem just like any other automation before it.
Cugel wrote: 21 Jan 2024, 2:33pm why do you think such gestures have any utility at all in this issue?
Well it's not like other regulatory standards, e.g. on H&S or data protection haven't had utility, this is much the same. Much like data protection it's not going to stop people operating outside the regulatory environment but it can provide a regulated market which major 'reputable' companies will be forced to operate within.
"Reputable companies"? Is there such a thing? That's surely an oxymoron - unless you mean, "Reputed to be a gang of greedy hooligans who'll destroy, risk and damage anything to make 3 extra groats on the bottom line".

NB Many already employ AI, which makes decisions for them about which neither the CEO nor anyone else has the faintest idea of the process and parameters involved.

PS When various interactive processes with various actions are combined, permed or otherwise allowed to form a larger whole, the resulting processes and actions of that whole inevitably contain rather more in the way of decisions and consequent actions than the mere sum of the participating parts would add up to. The emergent whole with its processes & actions are generally unpredicted and unpredictable.
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Stevek76 wrote: 22 Jan 2024, 1:36pm ...
Well it's not like other regulatory standards, e.g. on H&S or data protection haven't had utility, this is much the same. Much like data protection it's not going to stop people operating outside the regulatory environment but it can provide a regulated market which major 'reputable' companies will be forced to operate within.
Yes. The current and future regulation not being perfect doesn't mean that it isn't better than nothing.

It's good to see the EU acting: it's big enough to have some effect and its regulatory standards are widely used by non-Members.

The UK has a lot to contribute, even from outside the tent.

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A report today about political interference in AI, or rathe rpoliticians trying to edit AI responses. Is this going to be the next thing after politicians editing Wikipedia to improve their own record?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/26/india-confronts-google-over-gemini-ai-tools-fascist-modi-responses wrote:India confronts Google over Gemini AI tool’s ‘fascist Modi’ responses
Junior minister accuses tech firm of violating country’s IT laws with ‘downright malicious’ answers

A response from Google’s AI platform suggesting that some experts believe the policies of the Indian prime minister, Narendra Modi, polices to be “fascist” has provoked a confrontation between the company and the government.
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Good comment in The Conversation about politicians getting involved in regulating the future of AI
https://theconversation.com/to-understand-the-risks-posed-by-ai-follow-the-money-225872 wrote:It’s difficult to argue with David Collingridge’s influential thesis that attempting to predict the risks posed by new technologies is a fool’s errand. Given that our leading scientists and technologists are usually so mistaken about technological evolution, what chance do our policymakers have of effectively regulating the emerging technological risks from artificial intelligence (AI)?
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We need some kind of off switch before it finds ours
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